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Re: Getting a new knife
Reply #10 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:19pm
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I bought this little gem for canoeing/take with.
Scroll down for directions and care.
Hardest part is determining the proper angle they recommend.
Works well on serrated edges with a little practice and patience Wink

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Reply #11 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 9:00pm
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What I use on the trail for edge maintenance:   (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

What I use at home to get the serrations really sharp:  Medium and Fine Serrated Hone (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 1:00pm
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I am always on the lookout for improvements. I have always just used the following to sharpen my filet knife on the trail and have never tried anything else.
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I'm more or less satisfied but if there is something better I'm certainly interested. Have you or anyone else tried both products? What's your take?

Sweet looking knife BTW Kerry. Seems like you received good advice.
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 1:15pm
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solotripper wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:19pm:
I bought this little gem for canoeing/take with.
Scroll down for directions and care.
Hardest part is determining the proper angle they recommend.
Works well on serrated edges with a little practice and patience Wink

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ST
I was noting the "care" of the tool and they instruct not to wash. It hadn't occurred to me that the carbide inserts might rust. I'm thinking that must be the reason. I hadn't considered that in my new traveling style which has my filet knife and sharpener on the top of my duffel lashed via compression strap (Integral to the duffel design). I sort of like it there, quick and easy but I might have to re-evaluate. Thoughts?
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 2:54pm
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MT, You can keep it lightly oiled with the oil from your nose and it won't rust. Just don't try taking the knife blade to your nose. Wipe your finger tip on your nose and rub it onto your knife. Also don't cut something acidic, like a lemon.
  
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Reply #15 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 5:04pm
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MT, You can keep it lightly oiled with the oil from your nose and it won't rust. Just don't try taking the knife blade to your nose. Wipe your finger tip on your nose and rub it onto your knife. Also don't cut something acidic, like a lemon.


Go figure. Who would of thunk it?

It seems a shame to use such a resource thusly though. I like to mix it in with a little peanut butter or better yet some Nutella. Adds a little zing.

What I'm not getting is your advice on the knife usage. I use my knife to pick my teeth and my nose.....doesn't everybody?
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 8:52pm
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I'm not sure I like the direction that this conversation is going.  To each his own, I guess, but I believe in the purity of store bought nose oil.  You can get virgin, all natural, first pressing at selected health food stores or a wide selection of less expensive nose oils at Nose Oil World.

Here's what I use for sharpening:
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Even though it's a bit pricey I like this sharpening system because it is lightweight, sturdy, compact, lubricates with water and the diamond stones cut quickly plus it's a real sharpening system not a plastic toy.  At home I prefer to use oil stones and finish with black Arkansas.  I used to be a fine furniture maker and would get my blades literally razor sharp.  But that's all pretty much macho stuff since after the first pass the blade ultimately loses its super sharp status and becomes merely sharp, or dare I say, sharp enough.
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 9:14pm
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Son,
I wish you could see the freezers of fish my "plastic toy" has helped me get through. And most of those fish had big tough scales. When you come to my house for dinner you know what's being served.  Cool

BUT......... I'm not an old dog yet so maybe I can still be taught a few new tricks. I'll give it a shot, seems practical. Now I just have to scrape up some dough.......... seems kind of pricey. Will I be able to open the tiny little gas cap or does it run on batteries?  
  
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Re: Getting a new knife
Reply #18 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 9:51pm
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MT,

I believe your correct about the carbide rusting. I don't know that it would be a problem that would require " nose oil" Grin
Seems you could just blow the excess water off and let dry in sun or wipe dry. I think most ( might be wrong here) fishermen if there filleting regularly like to touch up the edge before each session. I think the don't wash was geared more to using it and storing in a drawer for a length of time before using again.

Kerry,

I'm a big fan of the DMT diamond whetstones. I have the single grit models because when I purchased them, I got a package special.
I have a coarse/medium/extra fine for my kitchen knifes and bought an extra coarse for touching up my camp axe on a trip.
Only drawback for many folks is that you need to know how to hold it and maintain a proper sharpening angle, something the experts even disagree on. I dulled a few before I got the hang of it. Being a fine furniture maker I'm sure you had your moments before you got it down pat Wink

The pocket ones with the pre-set angles are adequate for most people and take the guesswork out of sharpening, if you haven't done it much.
Nothing worse than a dull knife or more dangerous.
  
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Re: Getting a new knife
Reply #19 - Dec 22nd, 2010 at 10:23pm
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[quote author=mastertangler link=1292687983/10#17 date=1293052465]Son,
I wish you could see the freezers of fish my "plastic toy" has helped me get through. And most of those fish had big tough scales. When you come to my house for dinner you know what's being served.  Cool

Oops, sorry, MT didn't mean to be patronizing (or did I?). Anyway I was, so my apologies.  It's just that for me, those fixed carbide shapeners eat a lot of steel and are very unkind to blades.  For cheaper knives it doesn't make that much difference but for a nice quality blade I think it's worth learning to sharpen on a stone.  ST is right, it does take a little practice getting the angle right and to be honest I'm always playing with that.  It's much easier, for example, to sharpen a plane or chisel blade than a knife because the plane or chisel blade has a nice bevel to rest on the stone  whereas with a knife it's mostly by feel.  But really it's not that big a deal.  If you have a couple of knives that you really treasure you might want to give it a try.  Still, when all is said and done, if you're getting the results you want with what you've got, why mess with it?
  
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