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Dec 26th, 2010 at 2:26am
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I have a titanium pot. It has pluses and minuses. You best keep stirring your oatmeal with a mini GSI spatula or your raisins will likely burn. Of course the weight saving is what caught my initial attention. It heats up quickly but also cools off quick.

The cooling off quick has warranted some attention from me. Since most of my dinners on this summers planned trip are part freeze dried getting it properly hydrated without using endless amounts of fuel has become a concern for me. Cliff Jacobs mentions using insulated "cozies" in several of his books and that is the direction I have been thinking.

I had thought to make my own but stumbled on this website and this ought to make things easier. I like that the product has earned the "Backpackers magazine award" which I have learned to place great faith in. I like that they offer quite a variety of very specific sizes at a reasonable price. This should cut my fuel consumption rather dramatically as I can take it off the stove and slap it in the cozie and it will continue cooking and hydrating for quite some time after being removed from the flame. For those of you who cook anything that needs simmering for extended periods this could be a great asset and is very lightweight.
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Reply #1 - Dec 26th, 2010 at 7:22am
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If you want to save on fuel, like during some unexpected fire ban, filter rather than boil first. I simmer all my FD meals a few minutes either way. Maybe chunks of FD meat are better now but old habits die hard although I do use a hot pad on top and bottom because I can. One or the other does get heavy when forgotten and it rains overnight.

I had to replace an aluminum pot after many hours neglected. (Could have been a bad case of Apple Cobbler carbon - I forget. Anyway,) Mine developed an annoying pinhole drip at the bottom. I believe I looked into titanium at the time. For what I needed to replace, I don't recall much if any weight savings. but I do recall a huge difference in price so I went with the devil I knew.... I'd bet it now weighs half a pound with all the years of soot and carbon baked on. It's a good old friend and life is a game with soft rules.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 26th, 2010 at 3:36pm
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Never used any cozie like the one mention above, all that I have used has been of the fleece persuasion...used more to the keep the creations being created warm during hydration and warm when off the single burner. Cozies are sewing machine ware, and wool has some nice flame retardant qualities...wool fleece.

I have also run Aluminium (Al), Titanium (Ti), and even Stainless Steel (SS) cooking hardware. Ditched the Al cuz I got sick of unbending the folds the pack put into it, and also a little scared of the consumption issues; they say that Al isn't particularly good to eat, and I too created a leaker. So then it was on to SS cuz the boy had a keen eye down at the outlet store. And hear I am at Ti in a weight saving mode. Ti is scorch worthy with its heat conduction characteristics ergo the need for a cozie or a socking cap...thank goodness for good stoves and Outback Oven heat defusers. Ti is difficult to burn holes in too.

MT have you done the math yet with your total masses?
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 26th, 2010 at 4:31pm
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marlin55388 wrote on Dec 26th, 2010 at 3:36pm:



MT have you done the math yet with your total masses?


Dude I think I'm looking good. Should be able to double on every portage. Been hoofin it with 90% of the kit in place, 2 miles no problem. Lookin to get it up to 4 or 5 miles........ 3 times a week by spring.

I haven't looked at fuel consumption yet. So far I have 1 large size MSR can for every 3 days. 7 cans total. Seems about right with a little to spare but I rekon I should do a trial run with 1 can to see how it plays out  to be sure. I think the cozie will be key in fuel savings. Boil the water, add the FD and stick it in the cozie for 15 minutes. By then I'll have a little fishee cooked up. Dinner is served! HMMMMMM  Smiley.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 8:47am
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mastertangler wrote on Dec 26th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
I haven't looked at fuel consumption yet. So far I have 1 large size MSR can for every 3 days. 7 cans total.

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Reply #5 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 2:02pm
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db wrote on Dec 27th, 2010 at 8:47am:
mastertangler wrote on Dec 26th, 2010 at 4:31pm:
I haven't looked at fuel consumption yet. So far I have 1 large size MSR can for every 3 days. 7 cans total.

Grin


Ok, you can poke fun at me, I'm down with that.

I'm willing to lug a little extra so I don't have to build fires or pump and prime or worry about fuel spillage. This is fast and easy. Just turn the knob and flic my bic.

To bad I can't give you my Al Pacino imitation ("you talkin to me") Wink
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 2:56pm
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I'm guessin' that by the time you add the cozies to the Tit cookware, it will weigh as much or more than quality cookware... Undecided
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 3:14pm
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Hey Old Salt, my main man, how was your Christmas? Groovy I hope.

Your just jealous because you don't have a cozie and I do! (well, I will have one pretty soon) It's gonna be the trick and you know it!  Tongue

Seriously though, the weight on the cozie was very minimal. I also got the neophrene cover to protect the cozie. It will look like this;

Msr wind pro stove+bic inside evernew Ti 1.3L pot/w lid
Inside the cozie
inside the neophrene cover used to protect the cozie. What I like about the neophrene cover is that there is a little gap at the top which will allow me to put my windsheild for the stove. That was a loose item I was thinking about not taking as it won't fit inside the pot. Problem solved. It's coming together. Kiss Kiss Kiss
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 3:49pm
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I make several meals that have dehydrated meet in then and that takes a while to re hydrate.  I do not like spending the time at the stove to rehydrate so I bring my food to a boil and wrap it in a dish towel and put it in the bag that I keep my dishes in.  Then I go about my other camp chores.  By the time (maybe one hour) I get back to it will only be lukewarm. Usually it will take about 5 minutes to get it ready then.  I do not think my towel and bag is as good of an insulator as the cozy but it is with me already and it works good enough.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 27th, 2010 at 5:38pm
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Jealous? No. Actually, I have a few cozies that I would have sent you, had I known in time you thought they were a good idea. I don't use them because it's just more stuff to fuss with. I just eat while its hot...

'Groovy' does not describe my Christmas. 'Different' and 'unplanned' are better words.
  
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