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Solus Inukshuk Offline Posts: 967 Location: Northern Minnesota Joined: Oct 6^th, 2006	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #20 - Feb 4^th, 2011 at 2:53pm	Quote Print Post
	Snow_Dog wrote on Feb 4^th, 2011 at 2:38pm: [quote author=DentonDoc link=1296766270/10#16 date=1296806502] My Dragonfly constantly clogs which is why I replaced it in the first place. Field-stripping and cleaning it on a nearly daily basis got old fast. When it's running right it's a great stove. Mine's got to be defective somehow because I know many others have had great reports on them. I had clogging troubles on my earlier MSR stoves, largely resolved when they switched to the shaker jet. My "pre shaker jet" solution was to bring a little squeeze bottle of alcohol for priming. There is no silence as fine as the silence born upon turning closed the valve of the svea 123 for the first cup of morning coffee.


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marlin55388 Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1230 Location: Watertown, MN Joined: Mar 6^th, 2009	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #21 - Feb 4^th, 2011 at 3:41pm	Quote Print Post
	Solus-"I had clogging troubles on my earlier MSR stoves, largely resolved when they switched to the shaker jet. My "pre shaker jet" solution was to bring a little squeeze bottle of alcohol for priming. There is no silence as fine as the silence born upon turning closed the valve of the svea 123 for the first cup of morning coffee." Lord knows thats true! @DD-Number of stoves still in possesion... MSR Whisperlite International (loaner/ backup backup) Svea 123R Climber (the brass! great memories! need it replace the lead valve body packing...got it to "warm" with the wind screen in the Big Horns) MSR Dragonfly-the workhorse Snowpeak Giga Power White Gas- the new work horse... Snowpeak Ti Giga Power isobutane-the tailgate coffee cafe Used along the journey and walked on for various reasons MSR Firefly Coleman Peak series-various MSR Whisperlite Coleman "Suitcase" Optimus Nova Optimus "Box Style" "Buzz Stove"...a little battery operated manure/duff burner Fire!


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Puckster Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1208 Location: St. Paul, Minnesota Joined: Feb 10^th, 2009	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #22 - Feb 4^th, 2011 at 3:41pm	Quote Print Post
	Mad_Mat wrote on Feb 4^th, 2011 at 2:19pm: pretty much any backpacking stove on the market will fit your requirements - choose your fuel type, and sort out from there. Only other stoves I have are a Coleman Peak 1 and Feather 442, which also work under those conditions - I've taken all of them on Quetico canoe trips at one time or another main difference is the type of fuel - cost per use, messisness, and volume. I will say, that for ease of use, no mess-no fuss, fuel efficiency and compactness, I like the Jetboil best So Mad_Mat -- you are more likely to take the Jetboil to QP rather than the Peak or Feather 442? prouboy


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Marten Inukshuk Offline Posts: 546 Location: IL Joined: Feb 7^th, 2010	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #23 - Feb 4^th, 2011 at 6:57pm	Quote Print Post
	Quote I guess I'm the exception, but I like the coleman feather 442. I carry two of them. They're reliable and quiet. I love the quiet. Some of the whisperlites, etc, sound like a jet engine revving up, IMO. end quote I am with you, the Peak 1 is so simple and quiet. Mine fits in the coffee pot. I have been in camps where the the stoves attached to bottles were used but when they were packaged up I could not see enough space saving to warrant the hassle. Part of the Peak 1 is fuel storage. Duel fuel is my choice, the multi fuel would never hold pressure very long while cooking. With the duel fuel Peak 1 it is pumped, lit and pumped again and is good until running out of fuel. The tank warms up as you cook and keeps the pressure up. I find it best to fill it while tilting it so you can see when it is 90 percent full. The extra airspace allows for much better performance. In Canada the fuel canisters are considered toxic waste and costs the parks extra money when left in their trash.


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #24 - Feb 4^th, 2011 at 7:43pm	Quote Print Post
	Trangia! Nothing is quieter. Nothing is easier. I've seen the same problem with older MSR stoves, pre shaker-jet. I took my Whisperlite winter camping once, it leaked from the valve and hasn't worked since. I suspect it's due to two different metals in the valve assembly. Stripped & lubed - still broke. Don't get me wrong, MSR stoves are still tops in my book for most uses. The assembly & process daunted a couple of my buddies to the point where they wouldn't set it up or turn it on. Once I showed them the Trangia suddenly everyone makes coffee! Do not get the UL Trangia model that doesn't have the full windscreen. It sucks. Either of the other two models. The only downside is that I have to be careful about the pots I buy as the pot-stand options are limited. Do not use MSR fuel bottles for Trangia fuel. The fuel will ruin the lid. The best part of the Trangia is that you can walk away and not burn through a whole bottle of fuel. The burner only holds a couple oz of fuel so if that burns out it's no big deal.


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marlin55388 Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1230 Location: Watertown, MN Joined: Mar 6^th, 2009	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #25 - Feb 5^th, 2011 at 2:43pm	Quote Print Post
	Preacher- What other stoves do you use or have you used? With these EtOH stoves... really how much control does one have; they are pretty much on or off right? Now the Triangia can burn the solid fuels, EtOH, and the wind screen can be messed with to burn wood and duff...right? Do you run an Outback Oven? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I think your just missing an o-ring brother; she probably cracked in the cold. There is a list of trouble shooting and schematics for you...


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BillConner Inukshuk Offline Posts: 665 Location: Thousand Islands Joined: Apr 12^th, 2010	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #26 - Feb 5^th, 2011 at 4:34pm	Quote Print Post
	I haven't tried it but am tempted and have read a couple of positive reviews. The "Dragon Tamer". (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I do love the dragon fly for it's relaibility and control.


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Mad_Mat Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1549 Joined: Apr 21^st, 2003	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #27 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 1:40pm	Quote Print Post
	"So Mad_Mat -- you are more likely to take the Jetboil to QP rather than the Peak or Feather 442?" yes - mainly because its lighter and takes up less volume overall, as compared to a 442 and exra fuel bottles and cooing pot. Solo, or for two people, it will be the Jetboil - more than two people, I'd take the 442 and use a bigger pot for boiling water, which is all I do anyway. While the Jetboil is less mess and fuss (i.e. no refilling the stove from fuel bottles), that isn't really much of an issue for me - its mostly the weight and bulk


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Preacher Contributer Subscriber Offline Posts: 1327 Location: COTU Joined: Apr 10^th, 2010	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #28 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 5:38pm	Quote Print Post
	marlin55388 wrote on Feb 5^th, 2011 at 2:43pm: Preacher- What other stoves do you use or have you used? MSR - 2 generations of Whisperlite Primus - I forget the model, but it was like a jet engine Coleman - The burner screws on to tall/tippy propane cans Home Made Alcohol Stoves - Neat but too fussy for my preference. And of course the Trangia. Right off the top I'm against cannister stoves for weight overhead + environmental issues. Quote: With these EtOH stoves... really how much control does one have; they are pretty much on or off right? Now the Triangia can burn the solid fuels, EtOH, and the wind screen can be messed with to burn wood and duff...right? Do you run an Outback Oven? Trangia has excellent control with their simmer ring/snuffer. The main advice I'll give is that you can't be afraid of fire. It's a little tricky to use the simmer ring, but you get used to it with practice just like most gear. I used to use the OO for years, but haven't recently. I have seen others do it, had a very nice pizza in Temagami one day! Quote: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I think your just missing an o-ring brother; she probably cracked in the cold. There is a list of trouble shooting and schematics for you... Thanks! Something for me to do while watching TV!


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marlin55388 Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1230 Location: Watertown, MN Joined: Mar 6^th, 2009	Re: Backpack Stove Reply #29 - Feb 8^th, 2011 at 3:22pm	Quote Print Post
	BillConner wrote on Feb 5^th, 2011 at 4:34pm: I haven't tried it but am tempted and have read a couple of positive reviews. The "Dragon Tamer". (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I do love the dragon fly for it's relaibility and control. This looks very interesting.....thanks for sharing.


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