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Backcountry ovens
Mar 11th, 2011 at 2:19pm
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Just when I thought I had all the gear I could possibly need (or carry!) my wife starts asking about a baking oven.  She says if I find an oven she’ll do the baking, and can she bake!  So that’s an offer I can’t refuse.  Is a reflector oven the best way to go and if so is the Svente Freden Swedish oven a good choice (given that I don’t have the time or inclination to build my own?)  Any feedback from oven users would be most appreciated.

  
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Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2011 at 11:05pm
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Hands down! The Outback Oven Wink
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 11th, 2011 at 11:16pm
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That's kind of what I'm debating - whether to go with the Outback or a reflector oven.  Anyone who has used both care to pipe in?
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 12th, 2011 at 2:07am
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I'm with Marlin. I really like my outback. The only advice I can offer is to examine your stove. If it simmers well and has decent adjustment then the outback has great results. Of course now I have to bring 2 stoves so while the lemon poppy seed muffins are going I can be preparing the rest of dinner.

Be ye careful! Extra stoves, extra fuel and of course the mixes. But hey, if Mamma's not happy no one is.
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 12th, 2011 at 4:04am
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I currently use the MSR Pocket Rocket.  Is that compatible with the Outback?  Can the Outback be used on a grill over an open fire?
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2011 at 11:07am
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Kerry wrote on Mar 12th, 2011 at 4:04am:
I currently use the MSR Pocket Rocket.  Is that compatible with the Outback?  Can the Outback be used on a grill over an open fire?


It is compatible because the pocket rocket has excellent simmer control. But here's what I didn't like about it:

1) The surface area where you place the pan is small in diameter. It is easy for the bake pan to slide off and onto the duff and dump your cake onto your sandal shod foot or upside down onto the ground. That never happened to me but almost. A pair of gloves is very handy with the outback oven.

2) the pocket rocket concentrates the flame in a rather small area. If your not careful you could burn your delectable delight.

3) due to the canister being directly underneath the oven I thought the potential for an explosion persisted.

For these reasons I picked up an MSR wind pro and am glad I did. The fuel canister is remote. This does 2 things for you. The potential for an explosion is gone but it also lowers the height at which your food is prepared. Less chance for an accident both in terms of it falling on your foot and dumping onto the ground. The wind pro also has a very nice wide burner. Much wider than the pocket rocket. Better and more stable. And lastly, as the name implies it is intended to be effective in windy conditions due to the wind shield. It is now my primary stove because of safety concerns and the pocket rocket is regulated for what it does best, boiling water in a 16 oz stainless cup. Since you will have the burner on for long periods the pocket rocket would waste much fuel....not so with the wind pro.

drawbacks? You have to store it in something so it doesn't get damaged unlike the excellent storage system of the pocket rocket. I put mine into my pot.....works great and I do suggest it.

The results with the outback are surprisingly good. We usually make double batches as it fills the pan well. We always intend to save some for later but somehow the whole double batch ends up gone within the hour. If your going to have leftovers make sure you have odor free storage. I use a little GSI lexan storage box with a rubber seal. I usually never have to use it though. Notice how the weight is starting to creep up? It's fun though and the results are great. 

I think you would have to be careful about putting it over an open flame. I think it would be a little tough to keep it in the "bake zone" as well. But that's just my opinion and having never tried it I probably am not qualified to give good advice. Just a hunch.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2011 at 3:25pm
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I've not tried that specific oven but would suggest you look into JMOs or jello mold ovens.  I've had nothing but good results on can stoves, kitchen burner, and fire.  A couple of bucks at a thrift store.  The bigger the mold the better.  Did a fine cake at a recent camp.  Mostly pizza/calzones; cornbread for rice and beans, that kind of stuff.  Thinking about some yeast bread on a warm layover day.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2011 at 3:29pm
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Kerry wrote on Mar 11th, 2011 at 2:19pm:
Just when I thought I had all the gear I could possibly need (or carry!) my wife starts asking about a baking oven.  She says if I find an oven she’ll do the baking, and can she bake!  So that’s an offer I can’t refuse.  Is a reflector oven the best way to go and if so is the Svente Freden Swedish oven a good choice (given that I don’t have the time or inclination to build my own?)  Any feedback from oven users would be most appreciated.


How about another style of oven?
I built a Flashing Stove oven. A few hours work with simple hand tools and a few bucks for silicone pie plate and high temp thermometer and your in business. I used mine on top of my Peak 1, but you could use over coals as well.  IC can vouch, it made a nice loaf of her camp bread Wink A search here will bring up construction details.
Here's a Photobucket link to pics of project. Perfect for 2 people.

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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2011 at 4:13pm
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Kerry -- I own and use two different kinds of ovens:

The bakepacker -- (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) and

The "Old Scout Reflector Oven"
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The bakepacker is easier, in that it relies on a stove for heat.  I think it was developed in Sweden, for use by the military.  If you're not going to do much base-camping, I'd go with the backpacker.  You bake in oven bags, which have their limitations.  But I've enjoyed using it for muffins.

The Old Scout Reflector oven uses a campfire for heat. It is a lot of fun, and you can bake anything in it.  I pack along a 9-inch round baking pan.  Takes longer to set up, heavier, but good fun.   

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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2011 at 7:27pm
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I've use the OO & love it.

Echoing MT's concerns.  Mostly the fuel cannister under the burner.  Could explode.

Reflector ovens would work better with more versatility.  If you want that lovely browned on top look you'll be better off with a reflector.  Less likely to scorch since there's no contact with the heat source.  You can watch while you bake.
  
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