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Re: Review - Gravity Filter - Katadyn Base Camp
Reply #10 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 2:03am
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My buddy has a gravity filter.  It works fine. 

My only "complaint" is with all the tubes and bags hanging from trees, our site looks like a hospital ER. 

But I've gotten over it.

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Reply #11 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 3:31am
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Need to prestrain during pine and spruce pollen season...just sayin
  
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Reply #12 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 12:58pm
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"I too am interested in this discussion. I tried prefiltering through some mesh and it seemed the pollin just broke up smaller and went right through."

that is my conclusion also - I don't think that any screening will filter out pollen - nylon stockings ? maybe would help if going thru several layers - I don't happen to own any, so I will leave testing up to someone else.

Obviously, the more pre-filtering you can do, the longer the filter cartridge will last, regardless of whether you are using a pump filter or a gravity filter.  That is why I use coffee filters on the intake line of my pump filters, and did wrap one around the filter cartridge - it needed two to completely cover the cartridge, and I should have been using two from the start, but didn't.

Dissolved sediment is so fine that it pases thru all of the pre-filtering methods mentioned and gets caught in the pleated filter cartridge.  As I noted in a post above, it was clearly passing thru the nylon "screen" that comes as a pre-filter with the cartridge.  You cannot look thru that white nylon (or plastic? not sure) - you can blow thru it - a small sponge is provided with the cartridge to wipe off the  white screen - I could not see that there was anything to wipe off when I did clean it.  I could see that coffee filter was trapping silt or pollen, as it was at least slightly dirty when replaced.

the amount of pollen in the water varied from lake to lake - some lakes seemed to be almost pollen free, while others had a skim of yellow on the surface, and sometimes, when the sun was right, I could see suspended pollen in the water going down for several feet.

as I mentioned in the original post, the reviews I read were varied - some people had no problems, and others, including a few for BWCA  said that thier filters clogged after only a few days use

regardless, the filter worked well enough to be included on the next tandem trip.  I don't think it is worth bringing on a solo trip for me - I don't base camp - maybe if solo and base camping it is still worth bringing, as no matter how slow the filter runs, it works all the time and will give you your filtered water if you have the time.  I don't see that the extra "hassle" with the gravity filter outweighs the minimal work of pumping a gallon and a half per day for my solo tirps.  Likewise, I could spend more effort in pre-filtering the water before it goes in the blue bag (its gotta help a little, at least) - and/or go out to the middle of the lake for water, but that extra effort seems to me to be more hassle than just pumping, and accepting that the cartridge may only be good for one trip.  Keep in mind that on this trip, we typically hit the campsite after 6:00 - several times it was more like 7, and once it was 8:30 - don't really want to fool around that much for water when you hit camp that late.
  
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Re: Review - Gravity Filter - Katadyn Base Camp
Reply #13 - Jun 17th, 2011 at 2:04pm
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Here’s a few tips based on what we do. 

We usually travel the last weekend in May through first week of June, so there’s usually a good bit of pollen.  If the water doesn’t look too bad, we fill 100 yards out from camp as we approach our site for the night.  We just dip the bag in the water to fill (you can rinse the output hose with filtered water before you begin collecting to clean it off).

If the water looks highly pollinated, we fill at camp, using a regular old handkerchief draped across the top to catch sediment as the water is poured from a kitchen pot.  This seems to work well with pollen.

Hang the bag high – 7 or 8 feet.  I forget what the increase is, but there’s a decent increase in water pressure for every vertical foot of travel, to help with flow rate.

We hang a rope on the same tree, vertically, with a carabiner to clip to our 6L platypus bag, hanging just above or at ground level.

If there are air bubbles, strip the tube with your fingers to pull the bubbles out.  More effective than ‘flicking’.

**Let the bag hang for 10 minutes before opening the valve – lets the sediment settle on the bottom of the bag where it will be less likely to be pulled into the filter.

***When you get to the last 2-3 inches of water in the bag, shut off the valve – this water is full of sediment and should be discarded to prolong filter life.

Following these methods, our bag works everyday on an 8 day trip, typically for lunch stops and at camp for the night/morning water needs, and lasts the whole week with only a slight decrease in flow by the end of the week.
  
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Re: Review - Gravity Filter - Katadyn Base Camp
Reply #14 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 12:42pm
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FWIW I have the katadyn and the MSR (platypus) clean stream and have given both a good drive around the block. IMO the clean stream is superior in almost every way but one.

The fliter speed of the clean stream is at least double the base camp. Quick and efficient especially since you are able to purge the line of air. It's also much easier to fill and seems to be of a sturdier material.

That being said I will still bring the base camp on trips that involve larger parties such as 4 or more. 2 gallons of water is quite a bit and is very handy. I would also consider the base camp if I was, well, base camping.

If you are solo or 2 guys on the move the clean stream is superior by far IMO.
  
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