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Reply #20 - Dec 7th, 2011 at 6:25pm
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12 miles today and yesterday with the bike with no ill effects.


Just to play Devils advocate here, have your run you rehab workouts by your doctor or a certified sports trainer?
Everything I've learned or my degreed trainer friend has told me over the years tells me that working the same muscle groups on consecutive days is a recipe for disaster.

The muscles you use biking have opposing muscle that need working too.
Over develop/work one group, the opposing group can't do it's job.
You wind up with instability in your joints and that's the last thing you or anyone especially with orthopedic concerns needs.

I think I would get a trained expert to tell you exactly what muscle groups your using biking, then find an activity that works the opposing muscles. That way you can work-out everyday without overdoing it or risking long term damage for short term gains. I'd include a stretching session AFTER every workout and a rest day or two in there as well.
This morning on the CBS news they had a segment about " aging" exercisers,
The expert said that you need 3x things to exercise safely.
A baseline of over all muscle strength, same for cardio and you have to be/stay limber.
They also said that the older you get the flexibility becomes more important and in their opinion it was more important than the others to avoid injury.
  
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Reply #21 - Dec 7th, 2011 at 11:47pm
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I know you are right. But I like the biking.......outside right!? I will probably do it every day. Only 12 miles......flat ground......not to strenuous.

Stretching is the big non-factor for me after biking. Zero.....nada......zip

Probably time to go back to P90x every day as well. Got busy, got fat again but I feel pretty good. I'm off the road for the winter so back at it. I will be interested to see how the knee does after I stretch it out. I stopped the Yoga last year after getting loose because it felt like it was unstable. I am pleased to find out about keeping the hammys loose will benefit my back. Thanks ST for that tip.

OK........a few minutes stretching will probably help an old guy like me. In a month or two I will know if I can go back to WCP and duke it out.

Hey speaking of duking it out Machida is fighting on the 10th against  Jones. Should be freakin awesome. I love watching Machida. He's my fav. I'll probably miss it. I can't stomach the pay per view pricing and no sports bar in my little town. Rats!

  
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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2011 at 3:55pm
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I get the outside thing. You can still be outside and work different muscle groups on alternating days.
Bike one day and take a nice long hike the next with a light pack, say 20-30 lbs.
Stretch after every session, if only the hamstrings.
One thing about biking, it's not a weight bearing exercise.
Good for re-hab in the beginning, but you need the weight bearing work for the portages.

PX90 is a great program but with your type A+ work schedule you have to be careful your not tearing yourself down instead of building yourself up Wink
Like it or not, as we age we don't recover as fast. Nothing we can do about that.
You mentioned working 90+ hours a week, plus 2 weekends of 20+ hours.
By my math, that leaves less than 10 hours a day for family/sleep/whatever.
All the experts say were a sleep deprived nation.
I'm guessing your getting far less than the minimum sleep of 8 hrs.
Plenty of people get by on less, but let's not fool ourselves, getting by and thriving are two different things. Basically your robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I understand people can't cut back on hours in this economy. You have family obligations, you can't shirk that.
So the only thing you can really control is your diet and your exercise program.
Long term sleep deprivation leads to a host of problems that you may or may not attribute to getting less than your 8 hrs.
It will weaken your immune system. It makes it harder to bounce back from injuries and recover from hard workouts.
That's why I mentioned about alternating muscle groups and recovery days. You can't go full tilt day after day and expect not to pay one way or the other.
When your pushing yourself as you do, something is going to get short changed.
You don't want it to be your health Wink
  
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Reply #23 - Dec 8th, 2011 at 6:27pm
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Yea ST.........I think I have worked 2 lifetimes already. My wife complains but I told her that going in that I work a lot. I hate sitting around anyway. (I used to be a lot taller but I'm wearing down Grin )

The 90 hour weeks are the weeks I have shows on the weekends. Get up at 3 A.M........4 hour set up.......talk to to people all day, maybe go to their houses that night.......very long day Tongue At least I'm sitting for 2 days.

No wonder I'm tired. Kinda sucks.........just about the time I get good at what I do it will be time to check out. Not Fair!!







  
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Reply #24 - Dec 8th, 2011 at 11:11pm
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MT,

I had a friend who did the same thing for years.
He was a millwright for GM in the Golden Years.
From his mid-twenties he worked 7 days/12 hrs a day/Holidays and took little vacation time.
He was bringing in 100k a year plus. Paid off his mortgage in 10 yrs. Had all the toys paid off and a cabin up north paid for. Her and the kids wanted for nothing, except his time. He thought he was giving them the American Dream.

After his 2 kids were high school, he came home to find his wife had filed for divorce ( she never worked). Nobody could believe she did it.
Their lifestyle was the envy of their married friends.
She had the best and shopped at the best places.
Turns out she said he worked to much and she found a someone who would do things with her Huh
The guy worked himself into the ground so they could have a good life and he could retire at 50 with a great pension.
Instead she got 50% of everything including his pension. Since she didn't work, he had to pay alimony. He also paid big child support until the kids turned 18 and now he's paying for their college.
She moved her boyfriend in to their house that he couldn't sell becasue of the kids.
He retired now, living a modest retirement and not enjoying the fruits of HIS labor for 20+ years Cry
It gets better Roll Eyes
When she turns 62, even though she never worked in her life, she gets SS becasue she was married to someone who was paying in.
That amounts to almost a $1000 a month.
Like he jokes, I'd kill her, but I can't afford to pay for the funeral Grin
Not saying it happens to everyone, but  ALL work and little co-play is a dangerous mix Wink
  
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Reply #25 - Dec 9th, 2011 at 12:12am
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While we have a tiff once a year or so I don't think my gal would ever bail. Murder maybe, but divorce is not part of her vocabulary. She convinced me to go to "husband school" (marriage encounter seminar... (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) ) where we had a great time. After that I just kept doing what I had always done but she kept saying how much I had changed Grin

The maddest I had ever seen her was when I told her I was going to Isle Royale for a few weeks and then most of August to WCP. "your not doing that" she said..........I got real quiet (a soft answer turns away wrath) and said "yes I am"................

She was OK in about an hour but said I had to "make it up to her"..........Expensive trips as I had to put in a new covered patio complete with all the goodies. OK fine, you do what you want and I get to do what I want........works for me.

  
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Reply #26 - Dec 12th, 2011 at 3:51pm
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MT,

Sounds like a plan  Grin
I didn't mean to imply your mate might bolt.
I was just saying that sometimes what you think is doing the right thing, isn't what they think the right thing is.

The guy I was referencing used to have a running joke when anyone said he was gone to much and working too hard.
He'd say " When my wife re-marries, her new husband will say " What a fine fellow your first husband was to leave ME with all this good stuff"  Grin
Sadly the joke really was on him Cry
  
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Reply #27 - Dec 12th, 2011 at 5:55pm
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OUCH!! A self fulfilling prophecy............

A buddy of mine got kicked out of his house (divorce/court order) because his wife wanted to re-live her youth. She moved a young stud in fresh out of high school into HIS house with his 3 young daughters.

He was in a bad way for quite a while. Not sure how I would of handled some guy in my house, in my bed, with my woman and I couldn't set foot in the place that I worked my as@ off to pay for. That would be tough.
  
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Reply #28 - Dec 12th, 2011 at 7:52pm
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He was in a bad way for quite a while. Not sure how I would of handled some guy in my house, in my bed, with my woman and I couldn't set foot in the place that I worked my as@ off to pay for. That would be tough.


If you suspect foul play, you move to Texas and catch them on the "rise" Grin
I think that old law is still on the books?
Reminds me of this joke. I'll clean it up a bit.

A guy is in the clubhouse after a round of golf.
One of the other members asks him why he hasn't been around lately?

"My Wife passed away do from suffocation brought on by having a STD".
The member  offered his condolences then after a short pause said " Wait a minute, you don't die of that from a STD?
The newly single guy replied " You do when you GIVE it to me!
  
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Reply #29 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 5:18am
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Mrs. Wally never cares if I leave, never asks where I'm goin' or when I'll return???

Problem?
  
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