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 10 Solo Tripping A Tandem Canoe (Read 3946 times)
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Re: Solo Tripping A Tandem Canoe
Reply #10 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 1:27pm
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generally, a 17 footer isn't a prime choice for soloing - as much because of width as anything else.  any tandem can be solo'd, but not as well as smaller boats.

more commonly recommended are several boats referred to as "pocket trippers" - slightly downsized tandems that work better if you want to solo a tandem, as they are a bit narrower and lighter, but still capable tandems.   Mad River Malecite 16.5 (symetrical- that $3K ultralight looks sweet); Bell Northstar 16.5 (asym, but you'd have to find a used boat - solo from rear thwart position); Old Town Penobscot 16 sym (Ranger uses one as his do all boat) - Penobscot can't be had in composite though; Wenonah Solo Plus and the old Dagger Reflection 16 (Mad River makes it now, but its a bit different boat)

a lot of fans of soloing tandems on solotripping.com - Nova Craft Pal 16'  seems to be a favorite. 

And The Souris River Q 16 can be set up solo or tandem by adding a center seat.   The center seat option used to be offered for the Malecite as well - likely it still is, the old Reflection 15 came that way also, and the Solo Plus comes with that third seat. (they aren't really center, more aft of center, but not as far back as a bow seat would be)


the common theme, is a more or less downsized tandem that is better for soloing than a bigger tandem, giving up just a little bit of performance and capacity for tandem use

I've never solo tripped with a tandem, though I have paddled my Northstar and 15' Grumman solo - The Northstar had an option for a kneeling thwart, but mine just has a standard round tubing thwart - it solo'd ok from that thwart (I'd guess you could replace with a hung bench seat - if you could find one of the boats used), and the Grumman solo'd from the bow seat reversed.  Neither was good enough to make me use one instead of my solo boats, even for day tripping if I had an option.

you'd be a lot better off with two boats (buy used and get two for the price of one) and just squeeze them in the garage somehow - I have one boat hun up over my F150 with about 3" of clearance, and I don't have a very high garage.
  
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Re: Solo Tripping A Tandem Canoe
Reply #11 - Apr 23rd, 2012 at 3:10pm
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thinblueline wrote on Apr 19th, 2012 at 10:55pm:
Thanks for your insight solotripper. I'm wondering if taking out the stern seat would have any detrimental effects on the structure of the canoe? What kind of daily range do estimate you can cover paddling and portaging a tandem alone, with double portaging?


p_k,
probably answered your question for me.
The distance he sited sounds about right too me. So much depends on start time/your physical condition and of course wind and waves. I 2x-3x if the conditions warrant. Common sense should be your guide. Solo, you need to constantly be thinking AHEAD and anticipating the worst case scenario if you do whatever.
No sense in blowing out your knee/ankle/back trying to avoid an extra trip across a rough section of portage. One of the best things about going solo IMHO is that you set the pace and can do what you want, whenever you want.
I've found for my style that an early as possible start makes for the best balance between distance/exertion and time to fish/take pictures.
I'm on water by 7 am most travel mornings and try to get some mileage before the morning sun heats the water and the wind/waves pick-up.
I don't think I'd make any major modifications the first time out. Maybe the portage yoke thing I mentioned and taking out the extra seat and adding an extra thwart like p_k mentioned.

Your first trip will be a get acquainted trip if you get the tandem. After a few days you'll know what needs to be changed to meet your tripping style.
  
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Re: Solo Tripping A Tandem Canoe
Reply #12 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 8:15pm
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If the canoe is narrow you can paddle it solo using a double-blade. 

I solo a tandem, a fattie, too fat to use a double-blade.  I bought it for the same reason as you.  I do both tandem & solo trips, but only have room for 1 canoe.

Not being able to kneel could present serious problems.  There are times when it wouldn't be safe for me to be sitting upright fighting winds and waves.  You're much more stable when kneeling, much more connected to the canoe & the conditions.  Be safe, keep cool.

Rent rent rent.  Take as many different canoes out for a solo paddle as you can.  Nothing replaces personal experience & preference.  Solo being the crux as any tandem will likely perform just fine with 2 paddlers.  It's how it feels & reacts when you have no help that really matters.


As a solo tripper who double carries I try to limit my expected distance to 15km/day.  I can do more, but why kill myself?  I still have to make camp, make dinner, make time to relax.
  
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Re: Solo Tripping A Tandem Canoe
Reply #13 - Apr 24th, 2012 at 9:51pm
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If the canoe is narrow you can paddle it solo using a double-blade. 

I solo a tandem, a fattie, too fat to use a double-blade.


I had a double kayak paddle I bought at a garage sale and took on trip to try the double paddle idea.
Same problem, rental tandem was to wide for the length of the kayak paddle.

To keep from constantly banging the gunnel's, I had to paddle in a exaggerated windmill style which was exhausting to say the least and not meant for long paddling days.

A little research and I found that for a double paddle to work in a wider canoe, you needed to go to a 9 ft model. I bought one from Mohawk canoes that they advertised as a double canoe paddle.

Problem solved. I can do a rolling style trip stroke without any problems. Your using a different set of muscles than with a single paddle and it's not for everyone.

Seems to be a love or hate thing to those who have tried it.
  
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