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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 6:16pm
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"Not if you have a state license on your boat already, i.e. Ohio, Ill. But if you come from a "free state" like Indiana where they don't ask you to license canoes,,,MN requires you to license it with them,,,last I heard."

as far as I know, that is still a requirement for boating in MN waters (wouldn't apply with a Q permit just travelling the border route though, but agian, Jackfish or Pipestone Bays aren't part of the border route.

and now, you also need one of those (free) stickers for invasive species stuck on your boat somewhere

and if MT's coming from Canada, would he be classed as an invasive species?

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Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 7:32pm
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Hmmmm..........

Well maybe I don't have my ducks in a row........long time since I have been in BWCA. Enter PP Aug 6........spend 4 or 5 days putzin around via North Bay getting to the falls.

Can't I just show up to one of the outfitters in Ely and get the permits for BWCA? I definitely want to be legit. Wouldn't they also have the invasive species sticker?

MT......"invasive species"........Ha! Good one Mat.
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 8:48pm
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MT you really need to spend some time checking out the BWCAW rules and permit system, they are completely different than Quetico. It's not impossible but often not worth the effort to try to "blend" both parks into a trip. Crossing back and forth over the border is not allowed except at a portage and North Bay is definitely not part of any BWCAW permit.
  
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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #13 - Apr 25th, 2012 at 10:11pm
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Kingfisher wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 8:48pm:
MT you really need to spend some time checking out the BWCAW rules and permit system, they are completely different than Quetico. It's not impossible but often not worth the effort to try to "blend" both parks into a trip. Crossing back and forth over the border is not allowed except at a portage and North Bay is definitely not part of any BWCAW permit.


Sigh..........I thought the hard part would be getting the Quetico permit at this late stage of the game (and it was iffy.....I was surprised at how much was filled). Seems to enter at PP I have to enter a lottery for BWCA. There must be someone I can talk to. The circumnavigation trip is rather tame but is just interesting enough to get my motivation. Not crazy about just fishing in North Bay and Ranger for 10 days even with the new ride.
  
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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #14 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:25am
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I agree with KF. You can't just willy-nilly go back & forth crossing borders. You could however, start in Canucks at PP, figure how many nights you will be In Canucks, then have a remote entry (from Canada) permit for the remainder of your trip in MN. You will need an RABC and Canadian fishing liscence, pay the rent for using their land, as well as the BWCAW permit and MN fishing liscence. Don't forget to stop and see Barney in Ely...at end of trip.

As others have said, your canoe will need a current liscence.
  
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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #15 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:33am
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I spent part of church tonight asking myself why I want to go into BWCA........Motor boats, more people and shallower water. (I did of course listen to the message......."If God be for us who can succeed against us"......good stuff, but I digress).

Very peculiar winter as far as planning my trip.......usually I know that I know where I'm going. But this years trip has been constantly evolving. Good thing I'm somewhat flexible if need be. Looks like I will take KF's thinking to heart and stay on the north side of Basswood. Plenty of water to get to know. That way when I'm an old (older) guy I'll hopefully know some decent spots to camp and fish only a portage or two in. Lots of batteries for the depth finder and some jigging spoons to try on the reefs for walleyes and smallies. Time to think outside the box for august fishin.

Thanks KF for the prod......it got me thinkin. Thumbs Upup

  
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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #16 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 2:49am
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The RABC permit is not for US entry.  It is a Canadian document for remote entry into Canada without processing through customs.  There is no such critter for remote entry into the US.

Buy and pay for your trip in the BW side,
buy and pay for your trip on the Q side, using your RABC to enter
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Reply #17 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 3:18am
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I've done several trips incorporating both BWCA and Q permits.  I get a BWCA permit for the entire length of the trip and I reserve a Quetico permit for the first half (or whatever) of the trip.  You do need an RABC too and your passports so you can check back in at Ely on the way back.  Going in at PP you can do the Canada side of the lake first, check out the area on Canada side of Upper Basswood River Falls; then leave the Q and travel back along the US side.  Since I do not fish I cannot speak to fishing licenses.   Smiley
  
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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #18 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 11:14am
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If I reconsider......(again Wink ) that is exactly what I had in mind IC. I have RABC permit coming and have the entry date into the Q with the intention of continuing on from North Bay to Basswood falls into Pipestone and on around.

The problem (and I was going to call the Ranger station today) is gaining the entry through Moose lake into Basswood. Seems to be that there is a lottery if I am not mistaken. Of course the thought occurred to me that they have no clue what entry point I used several days later.........so I could likely pull it off via subterfuge but that would be outside the "spirit" of the law (my how things change).

The concept of circumnavigating the lake is attractive to me but on the other hand would it be "funner" to just stay in the "Q"?....When the first motor boat came along would I say "what am I doing"?.....maybe give myself a break and not push. Maybe even turn my poor August Quetico fishing record around with a little bit of focus (OK, a lot of focus)........

On the other hand if there is no goal, no agenda, no driving ambition, no "accomplishment" will I get bored being solo? Aimless, wandering across vast expanses of open water, criss crossing from one hoped for hotspot to another becoming downcast and mundane......missing my comrades......my wife......my child.......my dogs......my shop. I suppose if I have to......someones got to do it Cheesy
  
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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #19 - Apr 26th, 2012 at 11:29am
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You're making this too hard, MT.  Go to this link:

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You'll find BWCA permits for Moose Lake available just about any day in the summer except most Sundays and Mondays.  As IC posted, reserve an overnight BWCA permit for the same day you're entering Quetico.  Pick up your BWCA permit at the Kawishiwi ranger station (or an outfitter if you're towing up to PP), and then hit the water.  Get your Q permit at PP, paddle the Q portions of Basswood, then head to the US side for as many days as you want.  You will see motor traffic on parts of US side, although motors aren't allowed north of Washington Island to Basswood falls and areas just to the south and west of the falls.  Fishing is good almost anywhere in Basswood.  IN addition to your permits, you'll need Ontario and MN fishing licenses, ON Outdoors card, your RABC, and passport.  When you finally exit back to your vehicle, you just need to visit Customs in Ely.
  
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