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Re: Basswood ponderings
Reply #30 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 1:38pm
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Mad_Mat wrote on Apr 27th, 2012 at 1:00pm:
"BWCA is but a memory now. I dislike the thought of paying for nights I won't be using all to go to a less desirable area."

?   I don't see that you have to do that?  pay the Quetico Fee for the X# of nights you'd be there - say the first week, then move to BWCA side and you'd only pay the $16 - you don't pay a per day camping fee for BWCA


That was what I initially had planned Mat. But don't I have to enter BWCA at an established EP on the day reserved? Since I will be spending the first 5 days or so in Quetico and wandering up toward Basswood falls that would certainly put me at odds with the "spirit" of the entry system would it not?

While I like the goal aspect of paddling around the entire lake (still seems like a cool idea) I think in the long run IC has it right. Why put up with crowds and motor boats and heavily used campsites? Why not make the goal to know the Canadian side of Basswood in an intimate way.......notes of campsites, reefs found and plotted on the GPS. That would be a trip with some satisfaction especially if one does it with the future in mind. Lord willing I'm still kickin in my 60's and 70's and in decent health it might be nice to know Basswood. The good campsites, the good spots to fish. My big portaging days might be over by then but I cannot envision not being able to trip somewhere.........

All I know is that if Scott Smith doesn't have the Expedition finished by then the trip will far less satisfactory and I might even scrap the whole idea. Part of the attraction is getting to know the boat and see what it is capable of in bigger water (that is not to cold Shocked ).
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 3:00pm
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There must be GPS maps with the same info included?
  
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Reply #32 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 3:38pm
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db wrote on Apr 27th, 2012 at 3:00pm:
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Wow.......what a guy! Thanks db. I was under the impression that contour maps for lakes in the Q were non existent. How cool is this. I know what I'll be lookin at in the "readin room" for the next few months. Thanks Pal. Smiley

It's on its way.........one of my favorite pastimes......pouring over maps!! ("watch out leetle feesh, your in big trouble now".....Russian accent implied  Wink )
  
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Reply #33 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 6:03pm
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MT:  "Since I will be spending the first 5 days or so in Quetico and wandering up toward Basswood falls that would certainly put me at odds with the "spirit" of the entry system would it not?"

While I tend to agree with your logic, and think the day paddle on day in and over night paddle #71 on day back into BWCA is correct, outfitter said just get the overnight paddle to start with and it will be fine until you "leave the wilderness".  I don't like to circumvent laws because you won't get caught, but lets say you got a #71 that started two days before you crossed back into US. No USFS ranger will stop you in Q and they won't know when you are in US when you entered, and you've not deprived them of any money, so?

My direction recently has been to get the overnight paddle and paddle up Moose the night before Q rather than bunk and pay for a tow to PP. One of those 4-5 sites near top of moose and a couple of minutes from PP is nearly always open - if not all of them - and while not perfect, it's economical and all perfectly legal.
  
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Reply #34 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 1:41pm
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I routinely do what BC does, paddle the Moose chain the day before and camp near PP for the night.  It takes 3-4 hours to paddle there from the canoe access on Moose.  I also find it is a good way to double check you have everything you need and helps to re-arrange your gear a bit by setting up camp;  when you pack up again it seems the gear is better organized and somewhat less bulky with fine tuning.
This perhaps works well for me because the last hour or two when getting ready to leave for camping at home I am still not entirely "ready" and start to just throw extra stuff I think I want into a pack "in case".   Grin
  
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:35pm
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I think it works for me because if I start driving up early, I can be on Moose at 3 or 4 with a stop at Zups and CCO.  And, if it is poor weather, I can probably still bunkhouse and take a tow in the morning.  I use CCO, which has a small store at their Moose base for teh very last minute items. What I haven't done but have thought about is taking a tow the later afternoon/early evening before Q rather than paddle.  I guess when I've done this Moose was beautiful for paddling.  It's about 2 hours tandem on a glass lake day for me - under 8 miles.
  
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Reply #36 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:16pm
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I am so wondering what to do with my extra day and a half. Not to keen on spending much time on Moose lake. I thought about spending the time on Basswood near PP. Think I would have a problem just showing up for a day pass to overnight on Basswood on the American side? Don't they keep a certain number of passes aside for just that scenario?
  
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Reply #37 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 1:25pm
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More contemplative thought......

Just finished reading Hunter Island Showdown in BWJ and listened to Stu boast about having all that fresh food like steaks and such. I have always thought such treats might be nice but the thought of portaging frozen water never had much appeal to me.......

Until now that is Grin......... Shoot, I'm doing a portage free trip. Why not make meal time super special? A guy can only troll and jig for so long. Make a fire, break in my purcell grill with a nice steak and a glass of ice cold gatorade. Sounds kind of groovy.

Looks like Stu might get a customer. I just have to make sure his hard insulated food pack will fit inside the Expedition. If it gets really hot I might just hang a sign out in front of my camp......"Ice cold lemonade $5"......... Cool Grin 
  
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Reply #38 - May 1st, 2012 at 3:41am
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Hmmm, I'd say this discussion is getting into "paralysis by analysis" territory, but I know MT is going to go, come hell or high water, so I guess I'm wrong. 

But I've been waiting for a chance to use my favorite saying, being a non-analytical guy much to my wife's dismay. No matter -- MT has lots of options, and lots of "ifs."  Al -- just hop in that  canoe and "let the force be with you!"   Smiley

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Reply #39 - May 1st, 2012 at 11:37am
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Puckster wrote on May 1st, 2012 at 3:41am:
Hmmm, I'd say this discussion is getting into "paralysis by analysis" territory, but I know MT is going to go, come hell or high water, so I guess I'm wrong. 

But I've been waiting for a chance to use my favorite saying, being a non-analytical guy much to my wife's dismay. No matter -- MT has lots of options, and lots of "ifs."  Al -- just hop in that  canoe and "let the force be with you!"   Smiley

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Good timing Mike........during lunchtime I have been watching "The Empire Strikes Back" in 1/2 hour segments........"There is no try, there is only do" (Yoda accent implied.....My favorite Star Wars saying)

No paralysis........actually this has been extremely helpful. I'm almost to the point I'm looking forward to it. Yup, I planned a trip I really didn't have my heart set on because it just makes sense. My practical self seems to have asserted control........rats! But I'm feeling lots better about it after YOU-ALL (wanna be a southerner) weighed in. Shoot, good eatin, topo map, fishin the right side, permit in place with no extra hoops.........all good stuff.   
  
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