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Littlbug sn. stove and Fast Bucksaw
Jun 16th, 2012 at 2:28pm
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You guys are probably way ahead of me on this but I just broke down and purchased a Fast Bucksaw saw and a Littlbug senior stove. Wow!! Both are great additions to my camping gear.
We all have tools that do the work, but only occasionally do you find a tool that gives you pleasure using it; I would suggest that the Fast Bucksaw is one of the few. First and foremost it cuts like a dream, but then as you get to opening and closing it it becomes evident just how much thought has gone into refining the design. Beautiful work!
Some time ago I made a twig stove from one of those chimney charcoal briquet lighter things that you can find in the hardware stores. It works well and I've had a lot of fun fooling with it. But no matter how well I like it, it is heavy and no way will it collapse and pack neatly. So after looking at all the offerings on the market, I bought the littlbug senior.  It's the larger of the two and well made with stainless steel that doesn't feel the least bit flimsy when you get it set up. For me that was one of the most important considerations; don't want the fire escaping or for me to get scalded with a tipped over pot of boiling water. As it comes, it has no bottom to hold the fire so I'm experimenting with various configurations of cake pans and what not on the bottom to hold the fire and more or less insulate the ground from the heat. A work in progress.
What I can tell you so far is that the stove shields the fire from the wind well and would allow me to have a fire under conditions that I wouldn't dare have a open campfire. I'm learning what size of sticks/chunks of wood will produce a sustainable fire with out the necessity of hovering over it all the time. The pot supports allow you room to feed the fire without removing the pot most times. There is a carrying case that you must buy extra but I'm glad I did because it allows all four parts of the stove to be packed neatly and keeps the soot controlled.
All in all I'm glad I got both of the Fast Bucksaw and the Littlbug sn. stove and if your looking for a saw or a stove I recommend them.
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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 11:10am
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Rob,

Thanks for the report.  I've been on the verge of adding the LittleBug to my Toys Wish List.  Your endorsement puts me that much closer to actually buying the danged thing (the "Senior" LittleBug, that is) the next time I see one "on sale."

By the way, here is a really nice video of Harlan putting this unit to the test:  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

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Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 11:13am
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Here's the rest of the demonstration:  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

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Reply #3 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 6:21pm
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Thanks Jimbo, a little follow up on the stove: On the senior stove, a cake pan of at least 8 !/2" will fit the base of the stove. I have tried a configuration of one cake pan (right side up) holding the stove and fire and a second cake pan directly underneath (upside down). My idea with the second pan was to insulate the ground from the heat of the fire. Didn't work worth beans, scorched and killed the grass underneath. Maybe the way to go is with only one pan and support it with stones or sticks or something. I do know that if you set the one pan on anything combustible it will sure enough catch fire. As I say, a work in progress.
For me the whole reason behind the stove was to have some way to have a small controllable fire under my tarp on those days when the rain just won't let up.
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Reply #4 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 6:34pm
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Oldie Moldy wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 6:21pm:
On the senior stove, a cake pan of at least 8 !/2" will fit the base of the stove. I have tried a configuration of one cake pan (right side up) holding the stove and fire and a second cake pan directly underneath (upside down). My idea with the second pan was to insulate the ground from the heat of the fire. Didn't work worth beans, scorched and killed the grass underneath.

If you have an interest in going this direction, you might consider using a (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).  Some park/wilderness areas do not permit campfires directly on the forest floor.  You can make a fire on the fire blanket (with a layer of mineral soil on top as additional insulation) and it doesn't bother what is underneath.  I've had occasion to use one in the Sawtooth Range of Idaho.  It worked very well for that purpose (but a pain to carry the additional weight in my backpack).

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Reply #5 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 9:13pm
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Oldie Moldy wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 2:28pm:
We all have tools that do the work, but only occasionally do you find a tool that gives you pleasure using it; I would suggest that the Fast Bucksaw is one of the few. First and foremost it cuts like a dream, but then as you get to opening and closing it it becomes evident just how much thought has gone into refining the design. Beautiful work!


Somewhere along the line I wrote a mini review of the Fast Bucksaw and I couldn't agree with you more, Rob.  Many folks don't carry a saw at all but for those that do this is the best there is, in my opinion.  I've been using mine for only a couple of years but, like you, Rob, I admire the craftsmanship, quality and design every time I use it.  It is a world apart from the Sven I'd been using for the past 35 years (until it finally gave up the ghost.)
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:25pm
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Kerry wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 9:13pm:
Oldie Moldy wrote on Jun 16th, 2012 at 2:28pm:
We all have tools that do the work, but only occasionally do you find a tool that gives you pleasure using it; I would suggest that the Fast Bucksaw is one of the few. First and foremost it cuts like a dream, but then as you get to opening and closing it it becomes evident just how much thought has gone into refining the design. Beautiful work!


Somewhere along the line I wrote a mini review of the Fast Bucksaw and I couldn't agree with you more, Rob.  Many folks don't carry a saw at all but for those that do this is the best there is, in my opinion.  I've been using mine for only a couple of years but, like you, Rob, I admire the craftsmanship, quality and design every time I use it.  It is a world apart from the Sven I'd been using for the past 35 years (until it finally gave up the ghost.)

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Another candidate:  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links), but alas, mine lies at the bottom of Buldging Lake in WCPP after last year's trip.  The saw cuts exceptionally well and has the advantage of "no assembly required."  Flip open and you are on your way (with two open locking positions).  An added plus is that your hand is separated from the blade location by a fair distance and you have no depth limit on your cut.  Furthermore, the rubberized handle is long enough to use both hands.  I guess I should mention that the tool is likely of Japanese design, meaning that you tend to cut on the draw rather than the push (although it does cut both ways).

Oddly, it is in the same 1 pound weight class with very similar product costs.

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Reply #7 - Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:52pm
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Thanks Denton Doc, that fire blanket sure is an interesting idea. If a person could cross breed them with a Cookies custom tarp you could wind up with a tarp you couldn't burn holes in!
Right now I'm working on a set-up (on the littlbug) where I spread four or five nuts between the two cake pans leaving an air gap of about 5/16". And my new secret weapon is stolen from my wife's kitchen; it's a stainless steel thing that holds vegetables up from the bottom of the pot while you steam them. It folds up and looks something like a flower with many petals made of pierced metal. It has three little legs that lift it about 5/8". What I'm hoping is that it will act like a fire grate and allow better burning and perhaps allow some slight separation of heat from the bottom of the pan.
Who knows? But it's fun fiddling with it.
Hey Kerry, Looking at that Fast Bucksaw, I wonder how many revisions it has gone through to refine it to where it is today. I can imagine someone sitting at the kitchen table on a long winter's evening, making drawings and considering. He sure made a great design. Where I go camping it's been pretty much picked over and all the easy fire wood is gone, so this saw will really serve me.
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Reply #8 - Jun 18th, 2012 at 2:39pm
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Oldie Moldy wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 12:52pm:
Right now I'm working on a set-up (on the littlbug) where I spread four or five nuts between the two cake pans leaving an air gap of about 5/16".

Perhaps I'm a bit more weight conscious than you, but the I too use a spacer between flat surfaces to add a gap.  On my recent trip I used this method to cook cake/muffins via the "steam vat"method.  I placed the item to be cooked into a shallow (cake) pan and then placed that pan into a pot containing perhaps a 1/4" of water and resting on the spacers.  The steam actually cooks the item, which isn't browned, but EXTRA moist!

Oh.  My "light weight" spacers ... small flat rocks I find at the campsite.  I don't actually carry the spacers and if I loose one, there is usually another close about.  (Like the twisted cord clothes line, its a trick I picked up from backpacking.)

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Reply #9 - Jun 18th, 2012 at 4:13pm
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Oldie Moldy,

I made a Flashing oven that you can use over stove/fire.
For the lid you use a pie tin, but I wanted a way to check on the baked goods, so I cut out a large hole and made a inspection port out of one of the silicone baking sheets.

That's a long way of saying that the high temp silicone pad stays cool enough to the touch that I can use my hand to open and close it.

Cut one bigger than the pie pan and lay between your up/down pans and see if that doesn't keep the earth from scorching?
Weighs zilch and folds up to nothing.
  
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