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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #20 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 8:38pm	Quote Print Post
	Mad_Mat wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:45pm: or have a transverse groove routed into the top of your head, and fit the round thwart into that for a true canoe hat? Oh. You mean that spot where the wife keeps whacking me with the rolling pin! dd


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #21 - Jul 31^st, 2012 at 9:09pm	Quote Print Post
	Mad_Mat wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 7:45pm: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) the yoke in the link above looks well designed for tandem use ? except you'd have to add some padding Yes. I had noticed the listing at Kero Boats. Quite frankly, their prices are too high. I bought my brand new 150T for more than $500 less than they listed it for and my conversion kit (that I bought directly from Pakboat) was about 20% less ... and Pakboat also has the same yoke. dd


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #22 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 12:34am	Quote Print Post
	Latest development ... I got a conversion kit today so I can convert the 150T (tandem) to a 150 (solo). The conversion kit makes the hull narrower and slightly deeper. So I now have "two" boats. More pictures to follow. Now that I have all the parts, I can take some measurements and proceed with the pursuit of a suitable portage yoke. Oh. This time I DID go to the source. I talked with Alv at Pakboat/Scansport of Enfield, NH. He did the design of the Pakcanoe, and before that the Ally canoe (before immigrating to the US from Norway). And, yes ... he does indeed know Tony (referring to a recent picture of him on the wall above his desk as we talked). dd


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #23 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 11:13pm	Quote Print Post
	Five (gold) ribs out; five (silver) ribs in. Now my canoe is over 2 inches narrower. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) You might notice the black rings around the sides of each rib. Each ring comes in 1 inch sections. These are used to raise/lower the seat position (to a maximum of 3 inches). Seat now positioned between the two middle thwarts. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Swap-out complete, I now have the Pakcanoe in 150 (solo) configuration. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Now to get it on the water to see how she handles. dd


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Jim J Solo Inukshuk Offline Posts: 1195 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Joined: Apr 6^th, 2007	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #24 - Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:14pm	Quote Print Post
	Hi, My name is DD and I'm a "gizmo gear-aholic" Hi, DD. I'm Jim J


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knafelc Inukshuk Offline Posts: 148 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2011	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #25 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 2:55am	Quote Print Post
	-might be an appropriate' thought bubble',but seems to be a harsh remark to make before happy hour gains full speed. ... "Strictly Gear"...? no?


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #26 - Aug 14^th, 2012 at 3:23am	Quote Print Post
	Jim J Solo wrote on Aug 12^th, 2012 at 7:14pm: Hi, My name is DD and I'm a "gizmo gear-aholic" Guilty as charged! However, in this case there is some method to my madness. I'm working on putting together a fly-in/fly-out trip for next season. If my usual padding partner comes along, that means two canoes (since we both paddle solo craft). Unfortunately, we will not be able to fly two canoes on a single plane. So there are two possible solutions ... take two different planes (estimated individual cost per flight would be in the ballpark of $500) or make one plane each way and take one canoe as "gear." So, the foldable canoe solution could save me about 1/2 the flying costs. As for driving ... putting a canoe on my roof cuts my mileage about 3 miles per gallon. Since I drive LONG distances to canoe waters, there is also the additional savings in gasoline. All that is true ... but I'm still a gear junkie (besides, I needed a new toy to play with!). Now on to a portage yoke solution. Anyone ever try something like this? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) dd


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #27 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 12:17am	Quote Print Post
	Well, I dropped her in the water today and it looks like she is going to be both fast and quick. She reminded me of my younger days when I drove an Alfa Romeo Spider. True enough, the only load in the canoe was me and that adds a little to the existing rocker (the canoe will flex under a load). So, it was easy to turn this craft ... a bit too easy. My normal switch and hit pace is around 3-4 strokes before I change sides. I was having to change after 2 strokes with this little baby as I paddled down river. On the return trip, I switched to kayak paddle and this will probably be the ticket for running long, straight distances over lakes. The one-way distance I covered was just over 4.2 miles in just under an hour with a rest break in the middle ... not so much a rest as a water break (it was 103 here today). Keep in mind that I was paddling my normal "distance" stroke and not digging in to make rapid progress. In addition, the current was imperceptible, so I believe it was contributing nearly nothing to my forward progress. In fact, when I quit paddling, I would drift UP stream slightly under the influence of the wind. (If I were to guess, I traveled up stream faster than down with the yak paddle, but I took more water breaks on the return trip so judging speed was a bit difficult.) It will be interesting to see how the canoe responds with a trip load, but I seriously doubt that I'll ever get close to the 650 pound load capacity. dd


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knafelc Inukshuk Offline Posts: 148 Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2011	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #28 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 1:42am	Quote Print Post
	...So what size does this thing pack down to?-and what's it weigh?


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DentonDoc Voyageur Inukshuk Offline Posts: 3468 Location: Central Texas Joined: Dec 27^th, 2003	Re: Folding canoe experience? Reply #29 - Aug 18^th, 2012 at 2:19am	Quote Print Post
	knafelc wrote on Aug 18^th, 2012 at 1:42am: ...So what size does this thing pack down to?-and what's it weigh? The box it came in was 36 X 16.5 X 18.5 inches. It will pack somewhat smaller than that, but I haven't broken it down to put it into its supplied travel bag yet ... I'll get to that by early next week. The bag itself measures 20 X 11 X 39 inches with a top closure like a military duffle bag. The solo configuration should weigh in at about 43 pounds; the tandem configuration goes about 45 pounds. I'll eventually put it on a set of scales so I know for sure, but I'm thinking of altering the seat layout so it will slide on the rails. Right now, I'd have to use a screw driver to move the seat, which I wouldn't be able to do while on the water. dd


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