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Sleeping Pad Inflation
Sep 3rd, 2012 at 8:25pm
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Hopefully this isn't a repeat thread.  I seached for what I thought I remembered about pad inflation topics to no avail, so here's the new post.  Hope ya'll like it.

Air pad inflation on steriods - The "Cubenflator".

There’s been a bit of discussion on the forum about inflating sleeping pads – by mouth, pump, bag, and other gizmo’s.  I’d been looking for a way to reduce my efforts on inflating the non-self-inflating pad I have…happens to be the latest Big Agnes Q-Core….3.5 inches of comfy goodness.  I liked the Instaflator ( (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)) that has been mentioned for its simplicity and light weight.  At the price ($3.95 plus shipping), I bought 4 of them.  They work as advertised, but I wasn’t happy with the length of the bag and its delicateness.  One scrape on sharp granite and you might as well use it for a trash bag.  Sure – duct tape to the rescue.  It’s hard to use inside a tent too, as one poster mentioned.  I decided to make my own using the original hard parts.  You could probably make your own out of some tubing if you’re industrious.

I thought silnylon would be a better material, until, while looking for some online, I found cuben fiber, or CTF3 – a nonwoven laminate made of Dyneema polyethylene fiber.  Look it up – it’s pretty fantastic stuff.  They make high performance sailcloth out of it.  Ultra light backpackers have been making all kinds of stuff out of it for a while.  I thought I’d give it a try and it worked out as well as I’d hoped.  One bonus is you can use high strength double sided tape and don’t have to sew it. 

I got my fabric from Bearpaw Wilderness Design on line.  It’s not cheap, at $13.50/half yard of .51 oz./yd  material plus $1.00 per half yard of the tape.  The material comes 54” wide, so I got a yard of it and 3 yards of tape, plus shipping for $38. 

First, I made a tube by taping the two long sides with a flat seam.  I thought that might be a bit weak, but it’s worked great.  Tip – apply tape to one edge, line up the seam and weight the fabric so it doesn’t move/slide around.  Then slowly pull the backing off the other side of the tape at a 45 degree angle on the horizontal, pressing down the seam to seal as you go.  Use this method on all seams and avoid working with two sticky surfaces at one time.  This eliminates wrinkles, gaps, puckers, etc. – also known as screwing it up.

The original has a tapered end to it, but I thought it a waste.  Next I flat seam taped one end on the inside surfaces.   Since this seam would take the most pressure, I doubled it over and added one more pass of tape.  Now the one end had an unfinished edge, so I simply doubled it over and taped it – nice and clean.  Then I turned it inside out so the pressure would compress the end seam vs. pull it apart.  Where to put the valve?  Now I had two tapers to use.  I put the collar inside one corner and just pressed the nipple end into the collar, then cut the material out of the center with an Exacto blade.

Done.  How does it perform?  A light breeze or a couple breaths fill it.  It’s short enough to use inside a tent, but nearly twice the volume of the original.  It’s tough, light and packs down really small.  I put as much pressure on it as I dared (not quite full body weight) and it’s held up fine.  It takes about 1.5 times to fill my 3.5x20x72 inch BA pad.  It survived 10 days and 3 pads a night in Wabakimi last month and performed flawlessly. 

If I can figure out attaching pictures, I'll add some.

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Re: Sleeping Pad Inflation
Reply #1 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 8:45pm
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Sounds like a good project.  I purchased a pillow pump which performed so port I never took it on a trip.
You paid $38 for materials.  How much of that material was left over?
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Reply #2 - Sep 3rd, 2012 at 9:47pm
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I was just thinking about how to do this.  I have a thermarest Neoair and bought their pump which is very similar to the one you're using except that that bag is shorter and more square (easier to use in a tent etc.)  I was blown away by the simplicity of the pump and how incredibly easy and fast it was to inflate the mat.  However, the bag is just heavy plastic and although it made it through 3 weeks in WCPP I would like to find something more durable to carry as a bag and CTF3 sounds perfect.  Thanks for the tip.
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 4th, 2012 at 2:59am
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Hey.......what gives, who knew! My hated camping chore used to be pumping water, now it's blowing up my BA. Been thinking about some high country hiking and was dreading blowing up my BA in thin air.
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Reply #4 - Sep 5th, 2012 at 12:24am
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Improve your aerobic capacity and blowing up a sleeping pad is not so bad. It is kind of a fitness test. A glass half full thing.
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Reply #5 - Sep 14th, 2012 at 9:50pm
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Thanks for the support guys.  MP - no material was left over.  I started with a rectangle of material and used the 1 yd. by +/-54 inch wide fabric, taped the two long edges together, then sealed one end to form a bag and put the nozzle piece into one of the bag corners.  No cutting needed, unless you would want to 'square up' the edges first, but I didn't find that necessary.  Still mean to get some pics posted, but lots of other stuff going on too.

Jon - as far as aerobics goes, good  point, but keeping the moisture out of the pad, especially in cold weather makes better sense to me in preserving the longevity of the pad. 

If any of you take on the project, or have improvements, I'd like to hear about it.

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Reply #6 - Sep 22nd, 2012 at 7:15pm
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Get the Big Agnes Pumphouse
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No more hyperventilating!  All you need is an air mattress with a round valve.
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2012 at 4:41pm
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I sent for and returned an Exped pad. I was expecting one that had an intergrated pump. But while I had it I thought it was too flimsy. After talking to an REI rep on the floor about alternate bags I decided I wasn't interested in the new air pads anymore. I also noticed it was very noisy. Sounded like you were crushing a bag of chips every time I handled it. On my last trip someone had an REI knockoff. Every time he moved in his sleep it sounded like a major event.

Course you can figure you can just scare the bears away by just moving around on your pad  Grin
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 1:33am
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I have the Exped DLX9 top of the line and would fight rather than switch.  I've never noticed any noise.
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 5:38pm
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Huh? What'd you say?
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