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Sep 21st, 2012 at 3:45pm
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I had never tried sitting much less paddling in a tractor seat until my recent experience with the Expedition canoe which comes thusly equipped. I couldn't believe how much more comfortable I was. What was especially surprising was that even after long days paddling I never had any back issues........alleviating the need for a back rest (which consequently robs you of some power on your stroke).

Anyway.....it might not be for everybody but I'm certainly converted and am now looking into equipping my solo with one. The seat offered by Zav looks particularly interesting with the raised rear lip of sorts (furthering back support). If you haven't tried one and your rear gets sore you might give it a whirl.

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Reply #1 - Sep 21st, 2012 at 10:03pm
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I like the bucket better also. I converted my Magic to a sliding bucket.  It does not slide very easy (Aluminum on Aluminum) but is real nice on those windy days when you need to shift weight.
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 22nd, 2012 at 1:31am
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All very interesting, and possibly helpful to curing my serious case of butt-itis, which developed once again on a recent trip to Lac La Croix.  I have a Bell Northwoods with some kind of hatched netting.  Incredibly uncomfortable.  I wonder if I adapt my Bell to a tractor seat?  I've got to do something, or gain about 20 pounds of butt-fat as a cushion!

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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2012 at 2:25pm
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Use some contact cement to glue some closed cell foam onto those tractor seats too.

MP, Try a bit of sun screen on those tubes. You only want it easier to move, not too loose.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 22nd, 2012 at 7:11pm
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Tractor seats are better than cane or web for sitting, but kneeling is better for the body.  When sitting, the abs, lower- and mid-back, and hip flexors work overtime to keep you upright.  When kneeling, the strong muscles - glutes, quads and hamstrings - do the work.

Of course, there's that niggling little issue of the knees and ankles, but shifting position occasionally takes care of that.

I use strap-on knee pads made for baseball players.  They cover above, below, and on the kneecap.  I don't even notice them on portages.

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Reply #5 - Sep 23rd, 2012 at 6:42am
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I much prefer a bucket. That and a foot brace locks me in and makes me one with the canoe.

That said, the seat I used last, solo, was a sliding web. It moved easily when I took the weight off. I wish it would have been placed farther back but the thing I really liked was I could change the angle. My back does not like sitting in a canoe for extended periods of time. One day on a whim, I raised the back of the seat. My back was a LOT happier. It was maybe only a 5° angle and I never tried it the other way because if my back isn't complaining I'm a happy camper.

That canoe was nice because I could paddle on either side as long as I wanted and the seat was high and so I could easily tuck a foot under it and half kneel. That helps keep my knees and back happy too.
  
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Reply #6 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 2:45am
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I prefer the bucket seat.  The bucket seat supplies more support and my back doesn't get as tired as with a bench seat.  Also a bucket seat keeps you centered.  This is especially import if you have  a tandem.  With a bucket in the front, I don't have to tell the person in front to move to the right or left as much.  You can buy padded seat for bucket seats.
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 6:31am
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Westwood wrote on Sep 24th, 2012 at 2:45am:
With a bucket in the front, I don't have to tell the person in front to move to the right or left as much.


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Reply #8 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 1:05pm
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One day on a whim, I raised the back of the seat. My back was a LOT happier. It was maybe only a 5° angle and I never tried it the other way because if my back isn't complaining I'm a happy camper.


I find the same thing. On most bench seats, the front of the seat is putting pressure on your hamstrings.
Much of lower back pain is because of or along with tight hamstrings. Sitting in a canoe for hours doesn't help keep them (hamstrings) loose.

That little angle makes a world of difference. If you have a power adjustable seat in your car and find that on long drives your lower back or sciatic nerve is giving you fits, tilt the seat forward just enough so when your feet are flat on floor, there is no contact with front edge of seat and adjust the lumbar support if you have one to support the natural curve of your lower spine.If you don't have that feature, they make driving pillows just for this purpose.

It might make all the difference between arriving with your back feeling good or tight and sore.
  
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Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2012 at 2:13pm
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I'm getting some mixed reviews on the tractor seats!  I hear from many that they're comfortable, but I also hear you can't move around much, they're hot, and you can't get a good angle for paddling hard.  Has anyone tried this for a little added butt protection and comfort on the standard bench canoe seats? (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

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