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Jan 5th, 2013 at 12:56pm
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I am going to need to replace a aging car in the spring.  I have been checking out factory roof racks and find they are not meant to put a canoe on.  They have 2 cross bars one in the middle of the car and one at the back.  For a good canoe rack one bar needs to be as far forward as possible.  The only cars I have seen with decent racks are Volvo and Mercedes benz and those are a little out of my price range.  Anyone have any suggestions on a car with the front cross bar that is forward of the back of the driver’s seat?  Any chance of getting a car manufacture to send a rep to Copia to learn what is required of a roof rack?
  
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Reply #1 - Jan 5th, 2013 at 1:10pm
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I've not had a problem with my stock RAV4 racks for my SR Q17.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 5th, 2013 at 3:09pm
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Why not just get a car without a roof rack and put a Yakima or Thule rack on yourself.  The $500 or so for a good canoe rack is still way cheaper than the cost of a high end vehicle like a Volvo or Mercedes.  Personally I have a Thule designed especially for canoes and kayaks - perfect!
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 5th, 2013 at 6:40pm
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So, watched Thule video.  The "hook" to the door doesn't get close or interupt the gasket?  I wasn't getting the no gutter issue and what it clamped to.

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Reply #4 - Jan 5th, 2013 at 6:50pm
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Kerry wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 3:09pm:
Why not just get a car without a roof rack and put a Yakima or Thule rack on yourself.  The $500 or so for a good canoe rack is still way cheaper than the cost of a high end vehicle like a Volvo or Mercedes.  Personally I have a Thule designed especially for canoes and kayaks - perfect!

This strategy (removable rack) has the added advantages of a quieter ride when not carrying a canoe (almost all racks make some type of wind noise) and eliminating drag (to improve gas mileage).

For me, I also had to go this route because my pickup is sufficiently tall that it won't fit in my garage with the rack on.  I use 3 lateral bars spread over the length of my vehicle because of the length of my haul.  The middle bar is more for backup, one of the other bars should fail for some reason.  In addition, I run a safety tether from the middle bar to the middle of my canoe (thwart or seat).

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Reply #5 - Jan 5th, 2013 at 8:54pm
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There is also the dirt cheap option.  When I had a caravan without a rack, I found a couple of brackets that attached to the roof line to which you could attach a 2x4 which served as the cross beam.  The system worked fine (I drilled holes in the 2x4 and put eyehooks through creating two lanes for two canoes.)
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 5th, 2013 at 9:58pm
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Azalea
My present car has 2 rails I bought and bent to fit my roof that a t nut fits in.  I have a way to fasten 1X6 boards across when I need them.  They work great take 5 minutes to install and remove.
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My boards don’t make noise now that I know how to cut the front and back edge.  Round bars are terrible.
It would be nice to have a system that worked well, had a cross bar near the windshield, and I did not need to start drilling the roof of my newly acquired car.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 10:18am
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You could bypass the idea of a roof rack altogether and use something like this:
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The non-slip foam pads sit directly on your car roof, and the tie-down straps should provide all the lateral stability you need.

  
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Reply #8 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:57pm
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Magicpaddler wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 12:56pm:
I am going to need to replace a aging car in the spring.  I have been checking out factory roof racks and find they are not meant to put a canoe on.  They have 2 cross bars one in the middle of the car and one at the back.  For a good canoe rack one bar needs to be as far forward as possible.  The only cars I have seen with decent racks are Volvo and Mercedes benz and those are a little out of my price range.  Anyone have any suggestions on a car with the front cross bar that is forward of the back of the driver’s seat?  Any chance of getting a car manufacture to send a rep to Copia to learn what is required of a roof rack?
I find myself looking at the roofs/rails of SUVs and crossovers while driving around. It looks like the rails on a lot of new cars are shorter and to the rear of the roof. I had a '97 volvo wagon (now my daughters') that has great rails. An FJ Cruiser would fit you nicely.... Curious what you come up with for a solution MP.
  
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Reply #9 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 3:42pm
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I have some foam blocks and they are OK for short trips but would not rely on them cross country.  I had to duct tape the pads to the canoe because the canoe teneded to slide back and forth within the pads.  And the lateral support was not great.

I do use one pair now with my pickup.  I have a T support that fits into my trailer hitch and I use the pads for the bow.  With the T I get the secure attachment point so the less concrete attachment of the pads is not a concern.
  
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