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Reply #20 - Feb 11th, 2013 at 2:28pm
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A big thanks to Harlan at Red Lake Outfitters for getting us a ball park price estimate on this endeavor. The final costs for each paddler will now have more to do with how efficiently we can use each leg of these flights. It is evident that solo boats will incur the higher costs. If it would help the flow of things I have a Wenonah Spirit II in Royalex that could be used on an early trip and left up there for others to use.

I plan on being there for about a month in July or August. In the past I have had partners switch out with new recruits mid-trip. There are a lot of options open to us.
  
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Reply #21 - Feb 11th, 2013 at 3:47pm
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PortageKeeper wrote on Feb 11th, 2013 at 1:50am:
So about $860/person if two are going in, while two are coming out. What about the first two going in, or the last two coming out? It would seem that someone would have to bite the bullet on these costs, on each end.
Harlan, please let us know if you find it feasible to send a couple older canoes up there as rentals.
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May I suggest dividing by shares?
# paddlers / total cost

This way the first or last isn't hit any harder than the others. Some may want to stay in longer too.

I've got no skin in this. It's just worked for me in similar situations.
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 11th, 2013 at 6:03pm
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Agreed. If say six paddlers in three groups would commit, split it all six ways.
Also, if Harlan did want to get any canoes up there and leave them, maybe he'd swing a deal where the persons paddling these the first time would get free rental if they foot the bill for getting them there. Both parties win... sort of.
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 12th, 2013 at 12:27am
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Hey everyone,

Yes, still lots of questions, and yes, the would be the cost to get the canoes in and out and that would have to be passed on to the paddlers willing to do a trip.

I should also note that before we put the cart before the horse, caching canoes up in Opasquia may well prove to be difficult so I need to ask some questions of Ontario Parks / MNR first.  I will pose this question to parks staff and let you know what I find out.

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Reply #24 - Feb 12th, 2013 at 11:53pm
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Thanks to everyone who have thought this through to this point. I am VERY interested! Will be anxious to see what develops.
  
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Reply #25 - Feb 15th, 2013 at 9:22pm
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I decided not "degrade" the resolution for this sample.  Some of the notations on the map:

red flag -- confirmed campsite
blue dot -- probably campsite
"slw" -- shoot/line/wade
P -- portage (length unknown)
  
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Reply #26 - Feb 15th, 2013 at 10:04pm
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dd -

I've probably had no better than 50% success rate finding WCPP campsites where they allegedly existed on various maps.

Opasquia?!?!?

I'm betting < 25% hit rate!

As for me, I'm planning on swinging from the trees... there are bound to be enough suitable shelter prospects that way.  For those w/true tents?  Well, your symbols DO provide places to start looking for campsites, anyway.

Thanks for your work on this.  At least rapids, waterfalls, & such aren't likely to change much over the years!

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Reply #27 - Feb 15th, 2013 at 10:56pm
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Jimbo wrote on Feb 15th, 2013 at 10:04pm:
I've probably had no better than 50% success rate finding WCPP campsites where they allegedly existed on various maps.

Opasquia?!?!?

I'm betting < 25% hit rate!

My guess is that many of the WCPP campsites were originally source from something like the legacy forest project (the basis of many on PCD that are not present).  So, I understand your skepticism.

The good news is that the ones marked on my sample didn't use anything like a legacy source for the campsites ... they were marked on someone's travel map ... red flags are where they actually camped and blue dots are those that were identified during travel.  (Red flags are accompanied by number of tents that could be placed there--all 2 or more; some blue dots are marked as "nice" or "good").  That's not to say that some might not have been obliterated since then; I've seen such evidence on several WCPP campsites.

The sample also includes one fish symbol--they were used to mark where walleye or pike were found.  (I didn't bother including wildlife spottings.)

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Reply #28 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 11:17pm
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I have been enjoying the ease of moving around on this G4 map. East Lake has so many days of paddling on its various tentacles. A few portages around some rapids and many more days of paddling on long narrow waterways lay ahead. Plans for Opasquia 2014 are moving along well.

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Reply #29 - Mar 25th, 2013 at 1:16pm
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I did a little research on Opisquai a few years ago and while for a number of reasons I decided to forget it for at least a while, I did discover an outfitter serving that park - (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) and talked with them by email.  My recollection is After the second email to one of the family in the business, the main lodge had a large fire and they were not able to respond for quite a while.  I thought at that time they could arrange a flight from Red hook for around $1000 for my son and I - round trip - but foggy memory.  I did find lots of maps and info and some nice appearing routes.

I guess until I've seen next to everyplace in the Q, I'll just wait, but the remoteness is appealing and if you fish, it seems like an amazing place.
  
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