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Reply #60 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 4:16am
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Guys, when you take the floatplane from Sandy, you will fly due north and fly right over a high morraine just as DD described as you make your way to Opasquia PP. it is a neat siight as most of the terrain that you will see from Sandy to Opasquia is flat with heavy jack pine forest and scattered small lakes,ponds and marsh.

When flying in the fog, it can be a bit dangerous as the high plateau comes out of nowhere and the elevation difference is quite dramatic.

  
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Reply #61 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 12:32pm
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Jimbo wrote on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 7:57pm:
We have at least one QJer who uses Red Hook just about every year for basecamp/cabin style "American Plan" fishing trips.  I'm sure he could put us in touch with someone who can "negotiate."

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Wally 13,

I was wondering when you were going to pipe up in this discussion!

Thanks for sharing!

Also, it sounds like my dream of a mostly portage-free two weeks on East Lake has mostly evaporated.  Can't say I am enamored with the prospect of toting those heavy-ass aluminum dinosaurs but I guess you got to take what you get.

I kind of agree w/Marten that this Big Hook option is looking pretty good right now.

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Reply #62 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 1:58pm
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I think I see symbols on the topo maps where some of them are but the grand daddy as you call it is not marked. 
Looking at google earth east and then north of Sandy lake shows the Severn river crossing the end of the moraine.  I think that water is beyond my skill level.
  
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Reply #63 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 3:13pm
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Magicpaddler wrote on Apr 7th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
DD
I think I see symbols on the topo maps where some of them are but the grand daddy as you call it is not marked. 
Looking at google earth east and then north of Sandy lake shows the Severn river crossing the end of the moraine.  I think that water is beyond my skill level.

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As illustrated, the Opasquia Moraine stretches approximately 50 miles across the southern edge of OPP.  If you are into geology, think of it in terms of "shore line" since it has been suggested that the moraine shows evidence of wave action from a massive lake (Lake Agassiz) of 365,000 square miles that dominate this area at the end of the last ice age (~11,000 years ago).  By massive, maps show the lake would have stretched from this location south to the North and South Dakota border, and approximately as wide (stretching from Ontario to Saskatchewan).  I haven't checked for sure, but I'm guessing it ultimately drained into Hudson Bay when the "levy" broke.

Also, I'm not surprised that there are no documented reports of pictographs.  Amazing that people don't bother to look for them.  For example, the lodge owners on Hansen Lake (WCPP) apparently didn't know there were 2 sets of picto's on THEIR lake.  Also, there is some documentation of picto's on Island Lake to the west, as near to OPP as Manitou Narrows.  In addition, since there are still First Nation settlements in all directions from OPP, it stands to reason that there are likely some there.

Jimbo -

I'm confident that we can find enough water to explore with no more than 2 portages to cross (if flying to East Lake) to keeps us entertained for a couple of weeks.  And even if you start at Central (Big Hook) Lake, you can reach East Lake in 3 portages (longest being something in the neighborhood of 50 rods).  And the good news is ... you'd be traveling with the current going in.

Finally, I think if we expressed to the operators of Big Hook Camps that a lighter canoe would be a "make-or-break" issue for people wanting to do canoe trips in the area they'd find a way to get a more "portagable" canoe delivered to Central Lake.  As long as there were sufficient renters over the course of a summer, I think that would be a no-brainer for them.

If they have concerns about canoeist disturbing their fish camp guests, I think it would be worth point out that many (if not all) of us would intentionally plan routes to AVOID camps and outboard noise.  I've also found in WCPP that many boaters that I've encountered are actually curious about canoeist in the area and will actually drive over to talk.

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Reply #64 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 4:25pm
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I talked with Big Hook again this morning. They have 3 canoes at Central Lake Outposts. Two Nova Craft 17 foot Prospector and a 15 foot Nova Craft Scott. These weigh 70 pounds. They rent for $40 per day.

The round trip transportation is about $520. This can be done because the contracted air services are able to fly with full loads. He makes no profit on these flights. That cost is what the services charge.

I again brought up the option of bringing in Pak Canoes. He said if they were bulky it could incur "Cube Space Charges."

To book a trip you can send a $250 deposit for each person to the Big Hook's Milwaukee address. P.O. Box 510465, Milwaukee, WI 53203. Be sure to explain that you are making the deposit for a canoe and your dates. All entries and exits are on Saturdays but you can stay multiple weeks. The balance is paid during trip with cash or travelers checks. Please read all the info on their site for all the details.

Note from Claire on fees:
You will need to purchase Crown Land Camping permits.  Ontario Parks gets a % of the permit revenue so you are still supporting parks even if in a non-operating park.  Crown Land Camping permits can only be purchased in person at a Service Ontario office.  In Red Lake, this office is on the bottom floor of our building.

Craig (Farmer) and I are booking two weeks with one of the 17 foot canoes for July 13-27,2013 Tongue
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Reply #65 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 7:04pm
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Marten,

Did you mean to say you are booking for July, 2013, OR did you really mean to say July, 2014????

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Reply #66 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 7:34pm
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Jimbo wrote on Apr 9th, 2013 at 7:04pm:
Marten,

Did you mean to say you are booking for July, 2013, OR did you really mean to say July, 2014????

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Yes, we are going this July 13, 2013. I want to go in and check it out as soon as possible. I have no idea what we are going to find the traveling conditions to be like. I am interested in doing the loop from Central Lake to South Lake to West Lake to East Lake and back to Central Lake.

The easy way would be to go NW from Central Lake to East Lake but I want to attempt the loop first. If we can't make it through we can always backtrack to Central Lake and go to East Lake via a few portages around some rapids. The loop should be about 50 miles and make a great trip for future paddlers. The loop is an old route but we do not know how clogged it may be.

You know there is another 17 foot canoe if you wanted to join the fact-finding mission. Wink
  
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Reply #67 - Jul 25th, 2013 at 1:20am
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Rounding the bend and in the final stretch ....

Martin is near the completion of his clockwise loop (as indicated above), having made it as far west as Cocos Lake before turning east.  He has also taken several days to explore East Lake (to its upper reaches).

He still has a couple more days and a relatively short distance (with maybe 4 portages) to re-enter Central Lake.

I'm looking forward to a full report upon his return to civilization.

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Reply #68 - Jul 25th, 2013 at 4:46pm
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I'm looking forward to a full report upon his return to civilization.

I'll second that...

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Reply #69 - Jul 26th, 2013 at 10:34pm
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Martin's loop is complete.  Tonite he rests on Central Lake.

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