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Nov 28th, 2013 at 4:52am
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I am interested in anyone's experience & recommendations for Algonquin. I'm already part of myccr where there is loads of information and trip reports but I wanted to get a QJer's (or two) suggestions on where to go (EP, lakes to hit, etc.). Is coming from the north a better way in than one of the southern entries for example? Have a family trip with another family that is in the works for 2014 and need a basecamping/leisurely trip (not more than a 1-3 portages, shortish in the 40 to 50 rod range). Any ideas?
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 28th, 2013 at 6:17pm
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Is coming from the north a better way in than one of the southern entries for example?


I've been there 2x. First time I went ( both trips solo) it was from the southern entry point at Canoe lake.
It was a spur of the moment trip because the guy who was going with me to the Q backed out at the last minute and I wasn't a solo guy at the time.

I figured Algonquin would be a good test to see if solo was for me.

First thing about that entry you notice is that it's like a superhighway for novice paddlers.
Close to Toronto, they have people come in to just day paddle or overnight.
They have a shop/restaurant there and people were actually taking Styrofoam containers with lunches into their canoes for day trips/overnight.
I saw one hipster couple with 2 kids heading out for a day trip. The adults were wearing black leather coats.

I decided that if I wanted any solitude at all, I needed to get as far into the interior as I could paddle on the first day. I ran into a trail crew who's sole duty was to check campsites close to put-in for discarded lunch containers because they had a major problem with bears there.

I had nice time once I got into interior, but to do that I took some well maintained but long portages, one was over a mile long.

2nd trip I came in off of Highway 17 from the North, and it was a way better experience. A couple of short portages I was pretty well by myself, at least for a crowded park like that.

I used Algonquin Outfitters for both trip and was pleased with their service.

If you want a good reference book, I'd recommend the one I used.
It has multiple routes and rates them and the portages.
It's called "Brook Trout and Blackflies" by Kevin Callan.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 29th, 2013 at 1:41am
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Algonquin was where I learned canoe tripping.  It is an amazing park with a long history.  It is ridiculously beautiful.  That being said it is also, as ST points out, close to Toronto and is along with Killarney, the busiest canoeing park in Ontario.  If WCPP has under a thousand paddlers each season and Wabakimi under 2000, Algonquin has over 10,000.  Busy.  So if you're looking for solitude of the sort you might expect at WCPP - days or even weeks without seeing another human - forget it.  On the other hand there is no motor boat traffic in Algonquin.  There are no fishing lodges.  It is a dedicated canoeing park.
The northern part of the park, the Kiosk entrance, by virtue of the fact that it is furthest from Toronto, is somewhat quieter but really not by that much.  Shoulder seasons will be better than the height of summer but in any case you will be wise to book your trip many months in advance to assure that you will have access to campsites.  You don't have to say which specific campsite you will be staying at but I believe you do have say which lake you will camping on each night.
A couple of leisurely trips: Put-in at the Rock Lake campground (#9 on the map) and paddle south.  There are two ports, the first is 375 M, which takes you into Pen Lake.  At the south end of Pen there is a second port, 275 M, which takes you into Clydegale.  You could reasonably do Rock to Clydegale in a day and it is a nice lake to hang out and base camp.
Another nice little trip is to put it at Shall Lake (#17 on the map) and paddle over to Booth Lake.  There are 2 ports.  The first, you can paddle up in the spring and is, at any rate, a mere 90 M.  The second is 550 M.  Both are very easy.  Booth is a good lake for fishing - Northern, Smallmouth and Lake Trout.  I've caught some nice 5 and 6 pound smallies in the Fall.  Booth has lots of excellent campsites and is a good place to base camp. 
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 29th, 2013 at 2:12pm
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  You don't have to say which specific campsite you will be staying at but I believe you do have say which lake you will camping on each night.


Kerry makes a good point here. You do need to tell them what lake you plan to stay on, then it's first come/first serve from there.

Don't worry about finding a campsite. Wink
There marked with a big ( orange I believe) campsite marker that can be easily seen from the water.
I bring a small pair of binoculars and they really come in handy for situations like this.
You can see the campsite markers before you could pick out activity at the site, especially if tents are set back into the sheltered areas of site.
I saved time/energy by scanning for occupancy before fighting wind/wave only to find the site occupied.

No where near the Q/BWCA experience as far as chances for solitude, but a little planning and for a base camp trip for newbie's, it could be a great trip.
Don't confuse being well used with not needing to use your wilderness skills, especially when it comes to securing your food cache.

The bears there are big, plentiful and know people=food. I'd bring Bear Spray for sure and hang your food pack a good distance from campsite.
Not to scare anyone, but there have been a number of fatal bear encounters in that park so plan accordingly.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 4:38am
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An orange flagged campsite marker will seem like a luxury! Thanks all for the advice and suggestions. Northern route sounds like the best option for relative solitude. Had no idea (hadn't really checked into it) about the "Toronto-traffic" but it makes sense. Will do some more digging for maps and canoe trip reports on myccr. Thanks!
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 5:16am
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As for maps, the official Canoe Routes of Algonquin Provincial Park map is more than adequate (1:126,720 or 1 inch to 2 miles.)  Algonquin is not a wilderness park in the sense of WCPP or Wabakimi.  All portages and campsites are clearly marked and every campsite has a thunder box, a fire pit and a grill.
  
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Reply #6 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 7:53am
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Haven't been canoeing in A for 30+ years, but my recollections are consistent with the above comments. Northern entries tended to be less crowded back then (further from T.O.).

Nowadays, the "go to" map is called Jeff's map - google for it.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 3:31pm
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Js & Kerry, thanks for the suggestions. Is it this?

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When I opened that url my first thought was "wow"....nice maps!
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 7:52pm
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That wasn't the map I was referring to which is the "official" map distributed by the park: (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
but, in fact, Jeff's maps really are better and when my "official" map finally turns to dust I'll likely replace it with one of Jeff's.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 9:24pm
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That's a nice map too -- I'm a bit of a map nerd and love pouring over them to consider routes. As an aside, I drove the Transcan this past summer via SStMarie over to Montreal to get into New England with my family. We all loved traveling down that Ottawa river valley as it is absolutely beautiful. We saw a lot of the turnoffs for the nouthern access EPs. Hope to be able to pull this trip together---can't remember if I asked but do you or anyway else have fishing recommendations (without divulging any secrets!)?
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 4th, 2013 at 11:19pm
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IF I ever go there again, I'll go heavier on the brook trout type lures.
If you come in from North, you'll have access to streams which should hold plenty of stream trout.
I did well in them, less so in the lakes?
That might of been because I always seemed to be fighting a wind and often crossed the lakes as fast as I could. Not the best for fishing.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 5th, 2013 at 1:08am
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Neat. Good link. That looks like fun! Haven't caught brookies since I lived back east. River fishing might be a good excuse to bring the fly rod...hmmm.  :dankk2
  
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River fishing might be a good excuse to bring the fly rod...hmmm.


I don't fly fish, but there were numerous spots around/near portages that I wished I had some lightweight maybe waist high waders.
Summer might be okay to wet foot, but spring was way to cold for extended fishing.
I would anchor my canoe in stream and cast little spinners.
Fairly tight quarters, but if you have the skills, a  fly rod might be alot of fun for brook trout/small mouth bass and even the big toothy critters.
  
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