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azalea
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Important new concerning PCD
Apr 17th, 2014 at 5:36pm
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The PCD is now about 10 years old, which in computer technology terms, is canvas-tent type ancient.  Another website has been developed, (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links), which has the campsite data capability of the PCD and so much more (better map scrolling, routing, etc).  That site currently uses PCD data (with permission). The question I am currently pondering is instead of that site using the PCD data, actually moving the PCD data to (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) where it would be maintained in the future and shutting down the PCD.

While the PCD was totally free with no ads or fees (falling within the scope of the research mission of a university), this new site is a commercial site.  However the campsite data can be accessed for free (the site has ads and "premium" memberships).  I have never felt the data the PCD collected was mine but "ours", the people who contributed it.

So I am asking the community that contributed the PCD data for your thoughts on moving the data to this new location.  And I shall also point out (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) is only now using "public" PCD data, not the inukshuk-only data. If the data moves, should the inukshuk-only data also move (becoming public) or just disappear.

Your thoughts please.
  
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Re: Important new concerning PCD
Reply #1 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 8:02pm
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I think you should do whatever you think is best.  Ads are a pain, but they are part of the internet.
  
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Re: Important new concerning PCD
Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 9:10pm
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AZ, as you know, I've always had mixed feelings. It's your baby after all IMHO.

As far as Inuk data goes, I know there are folks here due, in large part, to your efforts. Thank you for that. I also know it made being specific a whole lot easier and I think thats probably true for a bunch of us so I'm fine with whatever you decide.
  
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Re: Important new concerning PCD
Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 9:33pm
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Whatever you decide is okay by me, I thankful for all the hard work you did setting it up. Thumbs Upup
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 10:38pm
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What's PCD?
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 12:44am
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Here are my thoughts, fwiw. Most of the contributed info was given by members of QJ. QJ doesn't own the info. What I think might be a reasonable compromise would be to have a link on this site to the pcd on the new site that would remain free.

As for inukshuk only contributions, my suggestion is to make it disappear. If folks want to add it back in on the new site, they can. As I recall, the idea was that it would never become public. Campsite abuse and overuse is and has been a continuing problem.

That said, it's your call. I appreciate your development of this info and I would like to be able to access it. Thanks!
  
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Re: Important new concerning PCD
Reply #6 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 1:13am
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Old Salt wrote on Apr 18th, 2014 at 12:44am:
As for inukshuk only contributions, my suggestion is to make it disappear. If folks want to add it back in on the new site, they can. As I recall, the idea was that it would never become public. Campsite abuse and overuse is and has been a continuing problem.


My thoughts exactly.

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Re: Important new concerning PCD
Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 5:28pm
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From the owner of (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links), ...

"I have the ability on my site to restrict campsite reviews, photos, trip reports, etc. to specific groups of people. Therefore, an option with the inukshuk data is to continue to restrict that to the people that originally contributed it. This would require them to have a membership on MN Canoeing, but then I could give them access to the data."
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 7:19pm
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I'm still a little confused. Is the membership free or paid?  Huh
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 10:19pm
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There is a free membership or you can get advanced features with "MapEnthusiast", "Premium", or "Outfitter" member ships.  See (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).
  
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