Guest Message
Hi there Guest,

It looks like you are enjoying reading our forum, so why don't you register an account with us to stop seeing this message and benefit from many more features. Registration is easy and will only take you a few minutes.

If you already have an account with us, then click here to log in.

Thank you,

db

 10 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice? (Read 9172 times)
Lake LaSalle
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 7
Location: Bemidji, MN
Joined: Feb 18th, 2015
19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:30pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Obviously, since this is my first post, I'm new to QJ.  I've taken a couple of trips now with my 'brothers' from church, so I'm looking for some of my own equipment.

I know Souris River has a great reputation, and they are light/strong for portaging.  I have an opportunity to get a 16 foot Souris River Quetico, 1996 model.  It appears to be in good shape, and seller is the 2nd owner.  He knows canoes well and says that it is in very good shape for its age.  I've seen pictures, looks pretty good, but obviously not pristine.  Is it worth the $600 asking price?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
solotripper
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 8105
Location: clarkston MI
Joined: Mar 14th, 2005
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #1 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 4:31pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Considering the price of a new SR Q-16, if it's structurally sound, I don't think that's a bad price. You didn't say, but I'm assuming its Kevlar?
We have a few people of the Q who have multiple canoes and often recommend people look for used ones via the on-line marketplaces. They know more than I about it.
I rent a Q-16 Kevlar same one year after year and it's easily that old.
If you get it, check out this site. They show how you can easily restore the hull to like new condition with a new coat of varnish and a little elbow grease.

(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Magicpaddler
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 1321
Location: Chicago Burbs
Joined: Jan 7th, 2004
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #2 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 5:54pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
LL
It is worth that if the bottom does not oil can. 
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Fallguy
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 82
Location: Elk River, MN
Joined: Jan 2nd, 2013
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #3 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 7:08pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
I have a Q16 that is rigged for solo. It was a 6 year old livery canoe so it had a lot of miles and was not babied at all. It still is a very sound unit. If you can give a look and paddle and everything seems solid I would jump on it. A for a new one you need to put a 2 in front of that 600.00.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
BillConner
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 665
Location: Thousand Islands
Joined: Apr 12th, 2010
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #4 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 7:26pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Didn't SR make these in Royalex back then? Not that it would be bad but price may not be quite the same deal.
  
Back to top
IP Logged
 
solotripper
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 8105
Location: clarkston MI
Joined: Mar 14th, 2005
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #5 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 7:59pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
BillConner wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 7:26pm:
Didn't SR make these in Royalex back then? Not that it would be bad but price may not be quite the same deal.


I don't know about Royalex, but they did make them in something called Duralite?

I've paddled/portage both and the weight is about the same but the Kevlar seemed "stiffer" than the Duralite. Construction was the same structurally. My friend and former outfitter Q-Dave said he though the Duralite was the better value for the money?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
azalea
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 1084
Location: North Carolina
Joined: Jan 13th, 2004
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #6 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:27pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
Quote:
so I'm looking for some of my own equipment.


You mentioned little about its intended use.  For a tandom canoe for long trips, you may want a larger canoe.  For a canoe you can also use on rivers, Kevlar may not be the material of choice.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Lake LaSalle
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 7
Location: Bemidji, MN
Joined: Feb 18th, 2015
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #7 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 2:36am
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
It is the Duralite.  Because of the distance (175 miles, one way) and age, I've decided to just remain patient.  I would rather find something a bit newer (used) and pay double that if I feel it is a better canoe long term for me. 

This canoe will be used tandem, and we likely will be going more into the Quetico with some BWCA trips too.  Our upcoming trip in May, we'll be on the north/northwest part of the park. Entering at Sue Falls.  That portage between Cirrus and Kasakakwog, uffda.  The lighter the better.

Thanks for the help guys.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
BillConner
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 665
Location: Thousand Islands
Joined: Apr 12th, 2010
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #8 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:47pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
One of my adult sons and I with gear for a week would be too tight in a 16 I feel. We try to pack light - three packs - and are comfortable in an SR17, which IIRC is just two pounds more than 16, all else being equal.
  
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Mad_Mat
Inukshuk
Offline



Posts: 1549
Joined: Apr 21st, 2003
Re: 19 year old Souris River, Good value for a novice?
Reply #9 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 2:05pm
Quote Quote Print Post Print Post  
just some thoughts 

$600 is pretty cheap for a decent canoe - you don't need to own it for a hundred years you know - you could buy it, use it and sell it for $400 after a year or two and no big deal - or you could buy it, and a month later find a canoe you like a lot better - buy that one and resell the first for likely what you paid for it or not much less (depending on the "market" you are in).  If it makes you feel better to get a deal, offer the guy $500 - one thing to watch for in a used canoe is if it has wood gunnels - if the canoe was kept outside, the gunnels tend to rot; check the bottom for soft spots too - indication that water may have seeped into the fabric from a deep gouge

do you still have the same first vehicle/house/bike you ever bought ?  of have you upgraded/bought newer ?  same with a canoe - lots of people have the attitude that they have to get the perfect canoe the first time and pass it down a hundred years later - not so

for many years, we tripped in a 15' Grumman -  that had plenty of room for two with gear;  my current tandem boat is a Bell Northstar 16.5'  - no problem for two with gear -- it all depends on how much or how little gear you will take

  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 

 
  « The Put-In ‹ Board  ^Top