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Re: precip jacket / treatment
Reply #10 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:28pm
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Zski, Deet might be a factor in the delaminating issue, and/or age. Sno Seal would seem to plug up the breathable outer layer.
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 4:19pm
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JimJ - yeah maybe those guys got their stuff all DEET-ed up, that's not my case though, i was just mentioning that's what some have said in reviews on the precip jacket. one guy said his jacket was 1 yr old and delaminating.
also, i didn't mean that i'd treat the jacket with sno-seal.  Atsko makes sno-seal, but this stuff too:
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that's what i was referring to as a treatment (mentioned earlier in the thread)
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 4:31pm
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Let us know about that atsko treatment zski?
Do your need to wash/clean before you apply like the other DRW treatments? IF it works as good as their Sno-Seal product, it would be a real keeper.

Before I understood just how bad DEET was for synthetic fabrics and of course people, I had that delaminating issue on a coated nylon rain jacket.

I don't even carry Deet anymore, I find the Permethrin clothes soak to be adequate and easier on the synthetics as well as me.
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 7:32pm
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sure. i'll post how well that stuff worked/didn't for me.
already did the nikwax tech wash last year so should be ok there.
i also treat with permethrin and started supplementing with 20% picardin instead of deet. seems to work for me. i'd hate to damage my gear, particularly from something i applied. back in jr high i had a friend that carried a leaky a battery against his stomach. the acid melted the whole front of his chicago cubs windbreaker. pretty cool.
  
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Reply #14 - May 6th, 2015 at 11:55am
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ok :  got this stuff on the jacket
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and water is beads off better than ever. the test was rather short so not sure about a soaking rain.
spray on, let dry, activate in the dryer. they say the coating is supposed to last 25 washes.

also used similar product by the same company on some packs and such
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product seems to work well, the only downside is the propellant ran out before the product. this on both cans

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beading is nothing, how about rain bouncing off !
  
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Reply #15 - May 6th, 2015 at 12:56pm
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That is good to know.  Looks like it would be easier to apply then the nikwax product.  When I get my nikwax product used up I will be checking out the spray on products.
  
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Reply #16 - May 6th, 2015 at 2:52pm
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THIS is the stuff to watch out for: 
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Reply #17 - May 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm
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zski wrote on May 6th, 2015 at 2:52pm:
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If you put this on a canoe will it just skim on top of the water?
  
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Reply #18 - May 6th, 2015 at 11:27pm
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i have issues with all of the aerosol water proofers running out of propellant before the liquid is gone. i sprayed both tents and rainflys yesterday. i was hoping to have enough between the two cans to do my rain coat, but ran outta air. oh well. my coat still beads well, its 4 years old, but i only use it for canada. it packs down so the size of 2 slices of bread and fits nicely in the pocket of my lifejacket.

i used the atsko silicone this year and last year and in previous years and it always seemed to work well. other years ive used the kiwi brand stuff and i didnt like it as much. i spray a whole can on each tent every year.

the last 2 years i did the atsko silicone. when i applied it yesterday, the spray actually pooled on top of the fabric a little in certain spots. in years after the kiwi brand, the atsko has soaked into the fabric nearly everywhere.
  
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Reply #19 - May 6th, 2015 at 11:39pm
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i have issues with all of the aerosol water proofers running out of propellant before the liquid is gone.


I never tried it for waterproofing garments, but I used it for other chemicals and don't see why it wouldn't work for waterproofing.

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Spray cans are always a poor economic choice for what you get out of the can. I have numerous spray paint cans that I tossed because they had run out of propellant but still had plenty of paint. I use a electric paint sprayer now.
  
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