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Reply #10 - Apr 4th, 2017 at 7:47pm
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"This 8 ounce bottle is perfect to take hiking, fishing, camping, golfing, or any other outdoor activity. Full ingredient list: lemongrass oil, water, vanilla, castor oil, soya lecithin, lemon, vitamin E."

This what the Bug Soother folks list as ingredients.  Wonder if bears are fond of the smell of Lemongrass oil?

I know DEET is not healthy and it takes the paint off my crankbaits, but I have still not found anything that works as well.

Does the permethrin just kill the bugs or does it repel them as well?  I thought it was mostly for ticks?

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Reply #11 - Apr 4th, 2017 at 8:54pm
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MossBack wrote on Apr 4th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Does the permethrin just kill the bugs or does it repel them as well?  I thought it was mostly for ticks?

It deters mosquitoes, but doesn't kill them.  On the first trip using permethrin treated clothing, I remember one evening as I was sitting and watching the sunset on Murdock Lake (Quetico) and noticing I was surrounded by mosquitoes.  Funny thing is I felt that I was sitting inside a protective bubble and the mosquitoes where out there just beyond arm's reach. 

But it is not a complete shield.  I'll still add a bit of deet around face, neck and hands on portage where the skeets are so thick you have to strain them with your teeth to have an unobstructed breath.

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Reply #12 - Apr 4th, 2017 at 9:06pm
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I recently had a dog die from Lyme disease and she had never been off our farm, except to the  vet.  This means she contracted it from a tick in our own woods.  This gives me no comfort.  I have used the Sawyer brand of permethrin that ST mentioned as a spray for Carhartt bibs and it works very well.  The local turkey hunters use it in the Spring when the ticks are in a juvenile state and so damn small and translucent you can barely see them.

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Reply #13 - Apr 4th, 2017 at 10:15pm
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Wonder if bears are fond of the smell of Lemongrass oil?


  I wonder that myself? I'm thinking since it's all natural that critters wouldn't be as attracted to it like say BACON or FISH frying, but maybe not. Wink

I'm going to get some to check it out and will report what I find in a gear report sometime in the future.

I think a CLEAN camp is the best Bear preventer but like anything else clean is in the eye/nose of the beholder.
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 4:19am
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ST, I would guess you are correct.  You mentioned fish frying, there have been many times my clothes ended up smelling like what was cooked for dinner that night, especially fish.  Yet I have never bothered to leave them outside. I may get a surprise some night.

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Reply #15 - Apr 5th, 2017 at 4:43am
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MossBack wrote on Apr 5th, 2017 at 4:19am:
ST, I would guess you are correct.  You mentioned fish frying, there have been many times my clothes ended up smelling like what was cooked for dinner that night, especially fish.  Yet I have never bothered to leave them outside. I may get a surprise some night.

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Quetico Dave likes to tell the story of the two guys he rented a brand new 4 person Eureka tent and were just base camping on the East end of Q-Lake.

They were "concerned" about bears so Dave gave them the usual safety speech.

First night in they're playing cribbage sometime after dark and think they hear noise/growl outside of tent?

Next thing they know a bear clawed the tent and stuck it's head in! The screamed and the bear took off. Stayed up rest of the night around big fire and came out the next day.

When the got to QD's they were still pretty freaked out and was telling him how they couldn't understand why the bear did that because they had done everything he told them too?

Just about then Dave notices a piece of GULP worm sticking out of one guy's shirt pocket. Turns out he had stuck the open packet in shirt and forgot about it.  Wink Grin Grin

That was the last time he heard from them.

Just make sure your NOT wearing those fishy smelling pants IF old Yogi drops in for a late night snack.  Cry Grin Grin


  
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Reply #16 - Apr 7th, 2017 at 11:10am
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solotripper wrote on Apr 5th, 2017 at 4:43am:
Quetico Dave likes to tell the story of the two guys he rented a brand new 4 person Eureka tent and were just base camping on the East end of Q-Lake.

They were "concerned" about bears so Dave gave them the usual safety speech.

First night in they're playing cribbage sometime after dark and think they hear noise/growl outside of tent?

Next thing they know a bear clawed the tent and stuck it's head in! The screamed and the bear took off. Stayed up rest of the night around big fire and came out the next day.

When the got to QD's they were still pretty freaked out and was telling him how they couldn't understand why the bear did that because they had done everything he told them too?

Just about then Dave notices a piece of GULP worm sticking out of one guy's shirt pocket. Turns out he had stuck the open packet in shirt and forgot about it.  Wink Grin Grin

That was the last time he heard from them.

Just make sure your NOT wearing those fishy smelling pants IF old Yogi drops in for a late night snack.  Cry Grin Grin




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Reply #17 - Jun 6th, 2017 at 5:09pm
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I used that all natural bug repellent BUG SOOTHER on a recent fishing trip and was dutifully impressed.

NOT the bug conditions you'd experience in the Q, but I think it would be worth the expense to find out?

I found this DIY pet and human tick repellent recipe online.
It sounds a lot like the Bug Smoother concept.

I hate ticks worst of all and with the Lyme disease and this NEW Powassan tick VIRUS they found in Maine, keeping tick free is more important than ever.

Repellant for Pets
Add 1 cup of water to a spray bottle, followed by 2 cups of apple cider vinegar. (Ticks hate the smell and taste of vinegar, and will be easily be repelled by this ingredient alone.)

Then, add two spoonfuls of vegetable or almond oil, which both contain sulfur (another natural tick repellent).

Mix in a few spoonfuls of lemon juice, citrus oil, geranium oil or peppermint oil, which will all repel ticks and fleas while also creating a scented repellent.

Place the top onto the bottle and shake well.

Spray onto the pet's dry coat, staying away from sensitive areas including eyes, nose, mouth, and genitals. When outdoors for an extended period, spray this solution on two to three times per day, otherwise once per day is fine.


Repellent for You and Your Family
In a spray bottle, mix 2 cups of apple cider vinegar and 1 cup of water.

Add 20 drops of your favorite essential oil. Eucalyptus oil is a calm, soothing scent that also works as a tick repellent, while peppermint and citrus oils give off a strong crisp scent that repels ticks. (This way you won't smell like bitter vinegar all day!)

*Place the top onto the bottle and shake well.

After mixing the solution, spray onto clothing, skin, and hair before going outdoors. Reapply every four hours to keep ticks at bay, and examine the skin and hair when returning home to make sure no ticks are on the body.
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 7:28pm
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I know some people are still on the fence about DIY Permethrin treatments.

  Insect Shield clothing uses a proprietary Permethrin treatment. They say it will last thru 70 washings.

The company now offers a service where you can send YOUR clothes and they treat them for you.

Price's are not cheap at first glance BUT if the treatment lasts as long as they say and you figure in the cost of DIY treatments PLUS "labor" then it's not bad at all.

I'm doing a DIY washer load right now but I don't have a wife telling me I can't Grin Grin or a cat to worry about.

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Reply #19 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 1:35am
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Too strong and you may have a different kind of ‘tic’ problem. Wink
  
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