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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 2:03pm
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I agree with PD....try to paddle a few boats to see what you like.

   
    If you go that route which is probably the best idea if you can swing it, I would advise you to do this as well.
    Bring your big portage pack(s) with you loaded to the approximate weight you'll be tripping with.

  Then you can see if they load easily and more importantly how the canoe handles loaded?

   One of the reasons I didn't like a true solo was because I like to keep the load below the gunnels.
  My gear pack and food pack both have side pockets I added on. I keep my stove fuel and ropes etc in them. Things I want access to without opening the gear pack. They won't lay cross-ways in a true solo or sideways either.
   With the tandem, they lay either way. I'd have to change my pack/loading system if I got a true solo.

  Right now I don't want to do that. Maybe in the future when weight becomes a critical factor I'll have to go that route.

  I hoping PD's anti-gravity portaging discs get invented by then.  Huh Wink Grin Grin

  
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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:05pm
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@ ST.....still working on those anti-gravity discs...until then, I'm hoping the ones in my back hold out.   Shocked

Disclaimer on the Merlin II - have not tripped in that boat, as I fly up to MN. It's my workout boat locally. My drive would be 22 hours one way to Ely and I'm not doing that - at least until I retire.  I did get that for only $1250 and lightly used, so you just need to decide what you want, then wait for the opportunity.  I think you'll do really good on a used boat for $2000 grand or less.

Last summer, Magic let me paddle his Magic for the Aug/Sep. trip TomT did the trip report on.  I like to keep things below the gunnels too and with a narrower solo, I did have to keep that in mind packing. It worked out fine with my CCS Pioneer pack, a CCS 30L barrel pack, and a BWJ Guide pack.  And what Magic said about stability.  I find the Bell (NorthStar) canoes tend to have really good secondary stability, esp. in big water.  Jimbo and Wally13 did take on some water in that big ol' Souris River (and it IS big) on day 1, but that Magic stayed bone dry...just sayin'!  Then again, maybe it wasn't the canoe, rather the load!  Cheesy

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Reply #12 - Feb 15th, 2020 at 12:10pm
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Probably too far but Paddlefest in Old Forge is a chance to test paddle quite a few: Northstar, Wenonah, and Swift among others. Lots of nearby camping opportunities.  (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 15th, 2020 at 3:49pm
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portage dog wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
    Jimbo and Wally13 did take on some water in that big ol' Souris River (and it IS big) on day 1, but that Magic stayed bone dry...just sayin'!  Then again, maybe it wasn't the canoe, rather the load!  Cheesy

pd


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Reply #14 - Feb 15th, 2020 at 4:04pm
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   Grin Grin Grin Grin

  I wonder if you could use just ONE float and do the OUTRIGGER thing? That would fit right in with the PINK FLAMINGO camp motive!  Wink Cool Cool
  
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Reply #15 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:17pm
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I just wanted to thank everyone for the input and advice.  I GREATLY appreciate it.  Just like the fishing kayaks I'm used to, it sounds like it's best to test paddle as many models as possible.  Not a ton of canoe dealers here in Indiana, and even less that offer test paddling, but I'll figure something out when I'm ready to buy.  Again, thanks for the help!
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:50pm
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one thing I'd recommend you do is to start now, watching Craigslist and your local paper want ads for used canoes.

If you see a really good deal on something that meets your needs, jump on it.  you can always post a question here like - I see a xyz solo for sale - will that work for me?  or how much is it worth ?   

generally, really good buys go fast, though this is still the "Off Season"

and something to keep in mind - these boats are relatively cheap when compared to buying  a house or a car - if you get one that you don't like, just resell, likely for a small loss, but perhaps even for more than you paid - its not as complicated as getting a divorce!

I'd recommend buying an ultralight solo boat and learning to paddle it with a single blade, but whatever works for you.  Just keep in mind that ultralight boats don't want to be abused - you need to wet foot the landings and be somewhat careful with them - they aren't fragile, but they aren't super tough either.  if you are used to letting your fishing kayak grind up on shore to get out or shove off, you won't be doing that with an ultralight boat.
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 20th, 2020 at 6:53pm
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BF, Try Fluid Fun in Bristol or Earth Adventures in Ft Wayne. I'll PM you also as I have several canoes and know others that have some you might try. Stop by Rutabagas in Madison as you travel by, they'll let you test paddle anything they sell in a lagoon behind the shop.
  
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Reply #18 - Mar 20th, 2020 at 9:26pm
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TomT wrote on Feb 15th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
portage dog wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
    Jimbo and Wally13 did take on some water in that big ol' Souris River (and it IS big) on day 1, but that Magic stayed bone dry...just sayin'!  Then again, maybe it wasn't the canoe, rather the load!  Cheesy

pd




I think I have a solution for Mike and Jimbo's "Barge"  Cheesy

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Not sure how I missed this post & thread from way-back-when but I did.

TomT, please be advised that I have previously OWNED one of those stabilizer kits AND the rowing kit that came with it!  Bought it at Spring Creek, too.

You know the stabilizers/outriggers worked great on the water BUT, I'm telling you, they were a real pain-in-the-ass to portage while still attached to the canoe!  My other issue with them... well, with the whole "rowing rig", was that I was ALWAYS ROWING BACKWARDS!  There is DEFINITELY something to be said for "forward vision."  While this device might work OK in a canal or a wind-less day, it truly sucks on big water with big wind when you can't gauge the wave that's rolling at you.  I felt like I was surfing those monster rollers on the north end of Kauai during their "big wave" season!  It's not that I was in danger of capsizing. It was more the "bath of surprise" thing going on, smashing into those waves.  It takes some getting used to!

Anyway, those outriggers were quite the experience.  I paddled that way for a couple years, in fact.  Then, I decided that "canoeing" was not meant to be done that way.

Thanks for the tip.  Been there, done that!  Just another footnote/blip in a long list of misadventures in the wilderness.

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Re: Help choosing a canoe...
Reply #19 - Mar 20th, 2020 at 9:32pm
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Jimbo wrote on Mar 20th, 2020 at 9:26pm:
TomT wrote on Feb 15th, 2020 at 3:49pm:
portage dog wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:05pm:
    Jimbo and Wally13 did take on some water in that big ol' Souris River (and it IS big) on day 1, but that Magic stayed bone dry...just sayin'!  Then again, maybe it wasn't the canoe, rather the load!  Cheesy

pd




I think I have a solution for Mike and Jimbo's "Barge"  Cheesy

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Not sure how I missed this post & thread from way-back-when but I did.

TomT, please be advised that I have previously OWNED one of those stabilizer kits AND the rowing kit that came with it!  Bought it at Spring Creek, too.

You know the stabilizers/outriggers worked great on the water BUT, I'm telling you, they were a real pain-in-the-ass to portage while still attached to the canoe!  My other issue with them... well, with the whole "rowing rig" was that I was ALWAYS ROWING BACKWARDS!  While that might work OK in a canal or a wind-less day, it truly sucks on big water when you can't gauge the wave that's rolling at you.  I felt like I was in the big surf on the north end of Kauai during their "big wave" season!  I wasn't really in danger of capsizing. It was more the "bath of surprise" thing going on, smashing into those waves.

Anyway, it was quite the experience.  I paddled that way for a couple years, in fact.  Then, I decided that "canoeing" was not meant to be done that way.

Thanks for the tip.  Been there, done that!  Just another blip in a long list of misadventures in the wilderness.

Jimbo   Cool



  I could see this working on trips where you stayed on one lake, like Pickerel.

  I could see it working for a couple too.  Wink Grin Grin
You know where the guy is driving/rowing and his better half is TELLING him where to go.  Huh Wink Grin Grin
  
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