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Reply #120 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 11:24am
 
HighnDry wrote on Apr 28th, 2020 at 2:05am:
I had to look up GIGO. That's how far behind I am in this discussion.

Wash your hands and go where they ain't....that's my motto.


"go where they ain't"......I thought that is what I do when I go fishing most the time Wink   BTW......great advice!
  
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Reply #121 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 1:18pm
 
An interesting article, but not very optimistic about herd immunity. Read a bit like a novella.

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Reply #122 - Apr 28th, 2020 at 5:21pm
 
"This is confirming evidence that we all need to plan more trips!!"

And be careful on portages.
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Reply #123 - Apr 29th, 2020 at 1:53am
 
Ontario's 13-page reopening plan.

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It's more of a framework and strategy...
  
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Reply #124 - Apr 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm
 
There's been an interesting development on the two ER docs's video and the data they presented:

ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation

The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.

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More info:
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Reply #125 - Apr 29th, 2020 at 3:24pm
 
I cranked up that video and made it to the point where Erickson said “we took classes in ...” before I said NOPE!  You can’t start with an insufficient foundation and wind up anywhere that is meaningful.  I did look into their backgrounds for another 5 more minutes before confirming my initial observation.

Being a PhD and having taught research methods to all the PhD students in my college for two years, this kind of thing stands out like polka dot underwear.  Among the exercises my students completed was to select an article published in a top-tier, peer-reviewed journal in their field and perform an analysis of the contribution of the piece to their field.  The second assignment was to go back to the article and identify the things wrong with it.  They were given fair warning that finding nothing could result in an F for the assignment.  Finding nothing wrong was a rarity.

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Reply #126 - Apr 29th, 2020 at 4:34pm
 
Are you folks as confused about our Covid-19 testing issues as I am?  Seems to be so much contradictory information, it's hard to know what is real and what is not.  I don't trust what most politicos say about it, but do take seriously renowned infectious disease docs, in particular Drs Fauci, Birx and Osterholm.

I found the following article co-written by Osterholm (U of MN) to be very informative if not depressing.  Seems that our testing woes will be with us for several more months with expected waves outbreaks and hotspots.  His last line line reads: 

  "Informing the public involves clearly acknowledging what is still not known about this virus, and it involves stating what tests simply cannot do. It also means accepting this painful paradox: We turn to testing in the hope of managing the pandemic, but testing won’t get better until the pandemic gets worse."

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Reply #127 - Apr 29th, 2020 at 5:32pm
 
pine_knot wrote on Apr 29th, 2020 at 4:34pm:
"Informing the public involves clearly acknowledging what is still not known about this virus, and it involves stating what tests simply cannot do. It also means accepting this painful paradox: We turn to testing in the hope of managing the pandemic, but testing won’t get better until the pandemic gets worse."


It has to get worse before it gets better was a mantra in my family as I grew up. For my parents, that idea was based on the their experience during the depression and who got to have more or less lard in their sandwiches.

For my older sister and I, it was based on the direction that the antenna on the roof was pointing via the remote control and who ate more spinach that day.
  
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Reply #128 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 2:27pm
 
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Manitoba has Winnipeg but may be able to open up sooner. May be your early summer for Atikaki.
  
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Reply #129 - Apr 30th, 2020 at 3:34pm
 
It just might be... assuming Trudeau opens the international border.

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