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Dec 14th, 2022 at 5:02pm
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I ran across this item. There out of stock which may or may not be a problem?

For the trippers who bring a lot of electronic gear this might be something they like?

Doesn't rely on wind/solar, just human power.
A few or maybe one for every paddler in your group might just be what your looking for?

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Reply #1 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 12:34pm
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if you'd rather crank than pull
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Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 2:24pm
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The challenge with these type devices appears to be generating voltage that is appropriate for the device you are charging.  Cell phones, which many of us use in conjunction with InReach Minis, etc., for navigation purposes, are apparently notoriously "picky" receptors when it comes to receiving voltage.  It's usually best practice to charge your battery storage system, THEN charge your cell phone &/or other devices from that power bank.  It seems most energy storage systems/power banks for USB systems are far more tolerant when it comes to actually making use of the energy generated when cranking or pulling.  Another concern I read about for some of these devices is long-term dependability.  The last thing I need is to haul yet another item into the wilderness that soon becomes dead weight.

Don't get me wrong; I'm no electro-dude (ie. expert)... and I'll certainly defer to anything that MagicPaddler might have to say on the subject.  However, ST's & BC's posts got me interested in the possibilities.  This past paddling season I had considerable power generation & energy storage issues during my adventure in Manitoba's Atikaki Park.  First of all, my battery storage system died early on.  Nanabozho was on our butts a lot of our time there, wreaking havoc with our devices, our portage boots, our fishing poles, etc. & so on.  He even generated some serious cloudy weather for many of my 17 days in the park.  Therefore solar charging was "intermittent" at best.  Fortunately, he didn't mess up our fishing. Anyway, a dependable, portable, light-weight "hand-crank" (or pull) back-up system sounds appealing (& a possible nice last minute "stocking-stuffer" recommendation).  So, I dug into the subject a little bit and found the caveats/drawbacks I've mentioned.  It also apparently takes a fair amount of cranking to add up to just a few minutes of power.  There are more issues but I won't get into them here (mostly because I don't understand much of the techno-craperoo involved).

I'm not saying "don't buy" these products.  I'm simply saying "beware of their likely limitations" before depending upon them.  I'd love to hear from someone who has had actual experience with similar devices out in the wilderness.  What has their experience been?  What devices, if any, do they recommend?

As for me, I recently acquired a new Goal Zero power bank to use in conjunction with my solar panels.  I might be willing to invest in a hand-cranking system to help charge that bank IF I heard positive reviews from actual users.

Why not?  It seems I can always dream up an excuse for stuffing yet one more thing into my overflowing packs.

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Reply #3 - Dec 15th, 2022 at 3:43pm
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Here's another item to add to the mix  Wink Grin

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Yank it, Crank it, Tow it. Or just leave all the electronics at home IF you can.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 12:29pm
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I don't take much electronic gear, and nothing I rely or use much.
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 1:19pm
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The main device I charge is my cell phone.  I use it in conjunction with my InReach Mini for navigation & communication with outside world.  I resisted communication capabilities for a long time, until the time came when I had relatives/close friends with threatening health situations back home.  Don't have so many of those situations going on these days. It's now more about having "spoiled" those outsiders with the notion that I AM reachable.

I may start taking my Kindle along.  It's far lighter than the danged thick books I usually bring.  Since I'm now committed to bringing solar panels & a Goal Zero battery, I figure "What the heck, why not?"

Yeah, I know.  I've opened Pandora's Box.

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Reply #6 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 2:57pm
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Yeah, I know.  I've opened Pandora's Box.


  Does Pandora have a Portage Monkey in that Box Wink Grin  You're going to need one!  Grin Grin
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:39pm
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I resisted a tarp and a chair for years. Then came good raingear and a stove and FD food...

It's a slippery slope alright.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:46pm
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Jimbo wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 1:19pm:
I may start taking my Kindle along.  It's far lighter than the danged thick books I usually bring.  Since I'm now committed to bringing solar panels & a Goal Zero battery, I figure "What the heck, why not?"

Yeah, I know.  I've opened Pandora's Box.

Jimbo   Cool



The e-ink Kindles' (black and white, text only) batteries last for weeks of use without a charge (unless it is below 40) and carry hundreds of books at 1/6 of the weight of a single paperback. On some trips I read a great deal, on others not at all.

Will not work as emergency fire starter.

As an aside a secret pleasure of solo tripping was reading paperbacks, burning the  pages as I finished them. Subversive.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2022 at 12:56pm
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Solus wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 8:46pm:
Jimbo wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 1:19pm:
I may start taking my Kindle along.  It's far lighter than the danged thick books I usually bring.  Since I'm now committed to bringing solar panels & a Goal Zero battery, I figure "What the heck, why not?"

Yeah, I know.  I've opened Pandora's Box.

Jimbo   Cool



The e-ink Kindles' (black and white, text only) batteries last for weeks of use without a charge (unless it is below 40) and carry hundreds of books at 1/6 of the weight of a single paperback. On some trips I read a great deal, on others not at all.

Will not work as emergency fire starter.

As an aside a secret pleasure of solo tripping was reading paperbacks, burning the  pages as I finished them. Subversive.


Yeah, in recent years I had pretty much converted to bringing magazines (vs. books) for that very purpose.  Can't seem to cross the line to burning books, even paperbacks.  That's silly, I know.  In fact, I have one old paperback that I brought so many times into the wilderness that it's pages have fallen apart.  So, I collected the pages, put them back in order, and then into a plastic baggie. Then, I continued to take that very book into the parks with me.  It was a trip ritual of mine to reread the danged thing every year... and I enjoy it, every time.  Some stories never get old and I take comfort in reliving this one, time after time.  So, I'm probably overdue to bring that baggie with me yet again, so maybe the Kindle gets to stay home next summer.

The book?  It's an obscure volume⁹ written by a fellow named Hugh Fosburgh, entitled "The Sound of Whitewater."  I've written about it in the QJ books forum.  It has an "early Hemingway" vibe about it.  Anyway, time to bring it again... and, no, not for combustion purposes. Yet.

I'll let them toss it into the combustion chamber when I get cremated, I suppose.   I'll leave instructions that the whole mess should be re-bagged, then dumped somewhere in Quetico ( I have a couple spots in mind).  Might ask ST, MagicPaddler, & a few other QJ buddies to serve as honor guard and guide my sons to the right spot.

Best stay in shape though, guys; that ceremony is still a few decades off.  Got a LOT of wilderness reading to do between now & then.

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