Quote:I got fairly well-blistered for my former practice of shoving my Food Pack under the canoe (versus "hanging" versus "random placement in the woods" versus "guard dogs" versus substituting "live chicken sacrifices" versus who knows what else). Jimbo
"former practice"? Former? ??? Next thing I'll read is you don't tether the canoe either!

I hate to say this but part of Jimbo's bad habits must have rubbed off. This Spring, Tripper and I were shameful. Our first attempt came crashing down when a carabiner failed. We hung on Keats too but campsites after that, um, I guess you could say we got lazy. In our defense, the later campsites were little used, had no game trails... We actually saw one more bear than humans the last half of the trip and come to think of it, even that bear sighting didn't motivate us.
I always like these threads. Everyone has a solution that works for them while thinking others do it the hard way or the wrong way if at all.
"... never had a problem in x trips. Works for us."A bear has never gotten my food either. Even the a time one watched me hang it. He didn't even look at it twice. He was more interested in the rest of my stuff. Why? Because, probably, it was easier. Then again nothing has ever bothered my toothpaste and that's always out and accessible at camp.
The way I've come to understand this issue is that most people, and most bears, are basically lazy creatures of habit. All we really gotta do is be just a little more industrious than any bear we might be lucky enough to see. It's not just protecting our food, it's protecting the food of those that follow - and the bear as well I guess. Every method has it's drawbacks. We all do what's easiest for us.
Is it the hiding, the scattering, the distance from the campsite? How far is far enough? How much effort is each of us willing to expend just to have an extra cocoa when the Northern Lights are out? It's all a gamble based on individual risk assessment and circumstances. What are the odds? Who knows.
I started bringing the Rubbermaid box to foil the mice. Just so happened that it kept everything dry, organized, easily accessible and cost like $4. Hey, too bad there's not a camo version! (Although I'd bet blue would be tough for a bear at night.)
As long as unlucky people don't hang stuff too close to trees, or sleep with it, I think I'm good.
BTW - On solo trips my food pack is almost always hanging before I do anything else. If I'm not digging in it or sitting on it, it goes back up. I like it best when it's as close to the edge of the rainfly as possible. Walking any unnecessary distance is a pain, and kinda scary in the dark sometimes too. Talking to Yogi and Booboo in or very near 4 different campsites (3 in the dark) over the years will do that to a person. I'd certainly hate to be carrying food around at the time!