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Posted by: Chicken092
Posted on: Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:06am
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Figures a few days after posting on the forum and the ensuing discussion. We had a friend agree to do the trip. She has already filled out the RABC form and sent it out. Hopefully the Canadians are true to their word on the 3-4 week turnaround time. (Rather hope it's closer to three weeks) Since we are about 4.5 weeks out.
Posted by: wally
Posted on: Jul 15th, 2009 at 1:30am
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My latest RABC took almost 5 weeks by mail...

I hear you can certainly apply for one "in-hand" and while in person...but you risk a "no-go" should the Canadians ding you for any previous behavior....(if that applies)  I've also heard that once "dinged"...you still might be able to enter if you apply for a no-guarantee, several $$ "pardon".
Posted by: intrepid_camper
Posted on: Jul 14th, 2009 at 5:19pm
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I believe you can get an RABC immediately "in hand" if you apply in person at International Falls or Grand Portage entries into Canada.  If you go through LaCroix the tow boat will stop at the Canadian customs for you, and you do not need the RABC if you do that. 
Have your buddy, if he goes along, bring his pain meds so he is not totally uncomfortable if his tendons flare up.
There are lots of beaver sticks or dead balsam in the woods to make a walking stick out of if needed.
Posted by: Chicken092
Posted on: Jul 14th, 2009 at 10:08am
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Thanks for all the replies, I am glad to have the nickel. We have a long ways to go before we even consider let the gimp attempt his mission. In which time we are continuing to attempt locate someone to take his place. In addition, he has several Dr set up that may crush any hopes he has of even attempting his quest. I understand all of your points and personally I have been thankful that he felt the discomfort now and not a month later as we where slogging the portages. At least now if he attempts he will be more prepared for what is to come. 

On a related matter how long does it take to apply for an RABC at one of the border crossings? According to RABC website by mail it takes 3-4 weeks and anyone we would find would probably need to apply for an RABC. So unless we find someone very soon I will get to make wonderful detour taking a couple of hours on my way to Ely.
Posted by: Old Salt
Posted on: Jul 14th, 2009 at 4:15am
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Hate to rain more, but after more consideration, your buddy is risking himself and the group by going. I'm sitting out this year due to a knee injury. After surgery, I plan to go next year. Perhaps that how your buddy and the group need to think. It wouldn't surprise me if someone from QJ volunteers to take his spot, if it opens up.
Posted by: wally
Posted on: Jul 14th, 2009 at 3:43am
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N to S Quetico doesn't matter....it's the specifics of each that do.

so what do you do if he ends up not being able to walk while out there?  Leave him?  Bag it...go without or get another.  Thats my 1 cent...now you have a nickel.
Posted by: Ancient_Angler
Posted on: Jul 13th, 2009 at 11:22pm
My two cents.ow You now have 4 cents. If someone will toss a penny, you'll have a nickel.

I'm with Jackfish and Denton Doc. We had a death in our party about 3 weeks before we were to go this year and we found a fourth. Keep looking. From Side to Yum Yum has one rugged portage with lots of muddy walking -- good spot to get your foot caught in the mud. While Yum Yum portage from Yum Yum to Kashshapiwi has a well deserved reputation as tough, the portage from Shawn Walsh and the two from Kashashawipi to Joyce are no piece of cake.

I hate to join those trying to rain on your parade, but I am doing it anyway.

I wish your buddy well, but sometimes the wisdom is on the side of caution. A number of years ago I broke some bones in my hand and did nothing about it. Later when an orthopedist X-rayed my hand he asked why I did not come in earlier, I told him I thought it would get better on its onw. He told me, "Sometimes you are tougher than you are smart." I think, this is a time to be smart.

Tim
Posted by: DentonDoc
Posted on: Jul 13th, 2009 at 9:58pm
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While I think using walking sticks with carbide tips is a good idea (I typically use a pair when hiking in the rockies), I'd be cautious about using the wrist straps unless you have some experience.  On the rare occasion where you go down and your walking stick doesn't, the wrist strap could make the fall worse ... think sitting on the ground with your arm(s) fully extended above your head and locked in position by the wrist strap's tension.

The route into Brent that you have selected is not the easiest.  Getting to Shade will not be an issue, but crossing into Yum Yum or Yum Yum to Kash might be an issue.  Then, as mentioned, the climb out of Kash is not going to be a snap.  You will have a choice of 3 portages to enter Burt via Marj ... but the one that is a single portage (may not be marked on your maps) ends over a rock face with a steep down angle toward the water.  If it is wet, someone is going to wind up in the lake.

dd
Posted by: Jackfish
Posted on: Jul 13th, 2009 at 8:30pm
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I hate to say it, but I think your buddy should stay home.  He has an achilles problem that required surgery and it didn't work out.  Now he has a second surgery planned and wants to walk over rocks, roots and be part of a crew on a wilderness canoe trip miles from help.

What will you do if his achilles blows out somewhere near Brent?  If I were your buddy, even if I felt I could do the trip with minimal risk, I wouldn't put the rest of my group in the middle of that decision.

Better to go with an odd number and rent a solo canoe or 3-seater than risk injury and ruin the entire group's trip.  There is always next year when he'll hopefully be healed 100%.

My two cents, of course.
Posted by: solotripper
Posted on: Jul 13th, 2009 at 6:25pm
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The climb out of Kash is steep heading toward Joyce, the rest of the way is rough in spots and muddy too.
The Brent area has some rough patches as well. I think considering he doesn't need anymore stress on his injured ankle, I would opt for 2 walking sticks with the carbide tips for traction up/down the steep areas.
With the wrist straps, he would have  better grip than with paddles IF he stumbled. CAMPMOR sells their own brand, for about $50 a set. You could use for other outdoor activities and might be worth a look.
 
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