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Posted by: mastertangler
Posted on: Aug 11th, 2010 at 5:55pm
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Pretty cool.
My self-proclaimed "minimalist" partner would probably really like something like this. I bet it would also make a good backpacking stove where most of the food (that I carry) is freeze dried and all you have to heat is water.

 

Posted by: Preacher
Posted on: Aug 11th, 2010 at 4:48pm
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If you don't like pumping & priming then Trangia is the stove for you!  Yes I'm a Trangia nut.  Any stove that purports to be quiet hasn't been tested against Trangia.  Zero noise.  None.  Not a whisper.
No moving parts on the burner/fuel assembly, nothing to break, no maintenance required.
No pumping, no priming, no wetting of gaskets, nothing to leak.
No cannisters or attached fuel resevoirs to worry about.
99.999% of my meals are boil water meals, but I've fried fish, eggs, bacon, quesadillas, grilled cheese...
It's not the fastest, but when I'm out there I don't worry about a minute or two.  I'm out there to ignore tick-tock clock watching.
Packs up reasonably bomb-proof & needs only a dirty pot bag to keep the rest of your gear from soot.
Reasonably safe for use on wood, doesn't scorch unless you get the UL model.
Posted by: Mad_Mat
Posted on: Aug 11th, 2010 at 12:51pm
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"Geez
All this talk of punctures and fuel canisters blowing up. And all I was mostly worried about was a little extra weight and the thought of having to throw the canisters out (not exactly environmentally friendly)."


eh?  just puncture the empty cannisters with a nail, and they are perfectly fine and legal to toss into the recycle bin - Brunton? I think, sells some kind of little spring loaded puncture tool for doing that if you can't handle a hammer and nail

even the steel 1# propane tanks can be safely recycled if you shoot a hole thru them (to evidence that it is empty) - any .22 will go right thru the thin steel bottle
Posted by: marlin55388
Posted on: Aug 11th, 2010 at 4:13am
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LMAO! oh the entertainment of it all...thank you all so much Smiley
Posted by: mastertangler
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2010 at 8:50pm
Geez
All this talk of punctures and fuel canisters blowing up. And all I was mostly worried about was a little extra weight and the thought of having to throw the canisters out (not exactly environmentally friendly).

I guess I'm not into pumping and priming and worrying if my fuel is good or that it leaked. So far so good, but all I ever get is the MSR canisters.

I'll never forget pulling into the communal eating area in Glacier National park (you never eat at your campsite). There were 3 other young guys there and we chatted while they pumped and primed. They were quite preoccupied with their tasks. I watched and then for the first time I pulled a pocket rocket out, screwed it on and flicked a bic. I was quite pleased as it roared like a blowtorch. It's been a love affair ever since.........of course I've got a sleeker, newer, shinier one now and the faithful old standby will have to play second fiddle........A rather common American story these days (unfortunately).    



Posted by: solotripper
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2010 at 4:14pm
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Back on topic. I had read a story (Che-Mun) of a couple that had their stove blow up on them. They were on the Back River, cooking in their tent, large pan, external fuel canister was inside windscreen with the stove. Picture showed them with melted clothes on, skin burns, messed up tent. End of trip.


First Isle Royale backpacking trip of 4 we did. Late 70's, early 80's.
One of the 3 guys had a new fangled gas butane stove. First night's camp, on Superior. thank God Wink

Being a guy who never read a instruction book in his life and didn't believe in a pre-trip trial, he inserted his stove into the cannister and flicked his Bic.

You probably can guess what happened next Shocked The gas cannister clearly warned that you had to wet the fuel nozzle on stove to insure a complete seal. With the waves and wind, he didn't realize the gas was leaking.

Next thing you know there's a fireball flaming high that the pines he was under were in danger of catching fire. He panics and runs for cover.

I just did what came to mind first, I drop-kicked that stove 30 feet of shore, into the ice-cold water.

First he was elated he hadn't caught the woods on fire, then pissed as he realized he had to wade out into the frigid water and retrieve his stove Wink

I'll stick with the white gas stoves. 20 years on Peak 1 multi-fuel, and other than a few new gaskets, it's been one of the most trouble free camp items I've ever had.
Posted by: marlin55388
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2010 at 3:24pm
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Ouch Shocked
Posted by: Jim J Solo
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2010 at 2:39pm
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Back on topic. I had read a story (Che-Mun) of a couple that had their stove blow up on them. They were on the Back River, cooking in their tent, large pan, external fuel canister was inside windscreen with the stove. Picture showed them with melted clothes on, skin burns, messed up tent. End of trip.
Posted by: Jim J Solo
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2010 at 2:31pm
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Everybody complains/comments about the noise the Dragonfly makes, but I found I missed it when I used the Jetboil. Seems I had developed a comforting sense from the sound it made of knowing my stove was performing as it should while I resumed other camp chores.

I do like the my Jetboil too though, for soloing, not group camping. Just for it's compactness & ease. You don't have time to turn away from it either if you're just boiling water. When I take it soloing I'm just doing freezed dried and making coffee with it's press. So no simmering dinners. Nothing fancy, just food for fuel. I know groups do use them too. Where each person just buys their own cook cup, and takes turns popping it on one stove.
Posted by: marlin55388
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2010 at 6:08am
I have "blown up" non remote tank stoves using a windscreen Cool-many warns about the like in combination with the Outback Oven too...more like a splitting newspaper fire. Iso butane canisters are another story Shocked, catcher/firefighter attire would be in order me thinks. Just blew the lead packing out from around the valve in my first stove, SVEA 123R (white gas)....no burns just a downed pretty brass stove (trusty mini visegrips)  Undecided Loud the dragonfly is...but a a very good stove and great simmer control and well(stress) proven to me...Watch for the Snowpeak white gas review...we will be running them side by side, shortly. Snowpeak already has my curiosity...as it is whisperlite quiet and the simmer control of Dragonfly and takes to the flicking bic for that after feast coffee necessity...but maybe it will get the Optimus thumbs down for the tear down mandating fouling after every meal, time will tell its destiny.  I guess I'm a TW and an old school white gas sort of dude...dont get me wrong Cafe Console and the Endgate Dinner has had many a canister meals and cups of mud, but plainly they are a pain in cold weather; stick one of those in your drawers to warm it up when you figure it out that its to cold for the stove but not you, bugs are tame... but it does make for some good conversation about chemistry and refrigeration. BTW, the stoves (note plural) go into fleece bags, which then go into a Sealine bag with the fuel bottles and get beanered to the pack on the portages. White gas is hard on the palate Tongue. IMHO
 
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