I made the online purchase this morning. Fairly painless!

db wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

Understanding Canadian rules is simple.
1. If it's fun, tax it.
2. If it's sinful, tax it.
3. If it's fun AND sinful, tax it twice.

Fishing comes under category #3, so you need an outdoors card AND a fishing licence, and whenever the government asks you for more money, you have to give it to them.

Joe_Schmeaux wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:25pm:


DOH!    up

Joe_Schmeaux wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

Who US? Naah.

So that 11 on mine is coincidence? Honestly no clue. Seemed reasonable to me.

Hey, how can we skirt your whacky rules until we fully understand 'em. 

In a way it's too bad on the new card thing. If it's required and swipeable I don't understand the need. I thought that sort of automatic record keeping was part of the point to begin with.

db wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 5:43pm:

Yes, you have to get a new piece of plastic. And yes, the plastic is different for fishing + hunting vs just fishing. Probably the reason they don't allow stickers is to prevent people from putting a hunting sticker on a fishing card by mistake, and voiding the card.

The "11" on your card is not part of the identification number. So I think my card was the 708,158,127,412,980th card to be issued, not the 70,815,812,741,298,012th - that would be ridiculous.

I also think you Americans just come up here for the express purpose of causing trouble 

"M_M, probably the first desk after you get in the door. Park office is farther back through the a second hallway/door.

I remember Moose hunters lining up to get licenses at the first desk in Oct. We walked farther back and there was no action at the park desk. Unattended actually, they were helping out at the front desk, or way in the back somewhere."

Jim,

that may be the issue?  maybe being a different department, they may not staff that desk on weekend days in the summer ?    I've always bought my license along with teh quetico permit from the same person - maybe they don't want to do that anymore ?

who knows ?  I'll call them before I head up that way see what's what

"Yes, the card and the licence are separate. But bring your card - it's still good for another 2 years, and if you don't, the licence vendor might force you to buy another card in addition to buying your 2012 licence."

they can't sell you a fishing lic unless you have a card

when reading up on the Outdoors Card website, they speicifcally said that is wasn't legal to have two cards - so if you show up without your still valid (i.e. its not expired) card, they would more liklely make you get a "replacement"  for a lost card - which has an additional fee I think, and wouldn't extend the expiration at all.

like I said, stupid system

Okay now I'm confused. 

I have an expired 3yr old card with no stickers on it and no obvious place set aside to put any. Corner right of the back has what I assume is the manufacture date 04/09. The back does specifically state "Do not affix license tags to this card" --- Mine is not valid for hunting if that matters.

FWIW  --  The last two digits of my ID# (separated by a space) is 11 and that's right under where is says expiration date which makes sense if it's not just coincidence.

Fishen's hard!   

Or, make a statement and give your greenbacks to a different province than Ontario

Maybe they have different kinds of cards. I was sure my card had a sticker, but now when I checked, it doesn't. Last year's renewal was just a piece of paper that I had to keep with the card. It even says on the back of the card "Do not affix licence tags to this card"

But my card does have an expiry date ... on the front. Printed on the card in tiny white letters on the right hand side, starting at the gill on the fish drawing, it says "Expires Dec 31 / Expire le 31 dec". Under that, embossed in gold letters is a big "12", meaning my card expires at the end of 2012.

So check all of the small print, and consult your lawyer if necessary. Who knows what they would do if they caught you with an expired card, or one with stickers on the back that shouldn't be there ...