Pajeff,

I'll be your Huckleberry!  Assuming, of course I (hopefully) outlast you!  I dropped some of my dad's ashes along the falls from Sucker to Basswood in '09.  He used to fish up in some lakes with an old friend outside the park, but I have no clue where that was.  I got to go along once when young.  It would have been Crown Land. 

As to the passport question, I have one of the Passport Cards that I carry with on Q trips.  Of course, in an incapcitated state, it would not likey find it's way with me if medevac'd out.

pd

Old Salt wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 5:48pm:


I consider it immigration without being able to parlez vous Québécois. They can take my ashes to court though if they'd like.

Old Salt wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 5:48pm:

I'll be hiding in a Nalgene bottle and have Portage Dog sneak me in. PD, I'll pm you the spot but you have a pretty good idea where. 

If your ashes are scattered in Q, who is going to renew the permits and pay the fees for you to be there?

chaga wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 1:03pm:


It would appear the people who administer and enforce the regulations are at least slightly better at their job then the people who do their websites.  I think the problem at least partially lies in the attempts to digest and summarize the regulations - both for the Q and BWCA traveler but also more broadly - for the internet.  I wish they would publish the actual regulations as well.  (I've discovered that for a lot of BWCA regulations, they are still just in hardcopy and not stored electronically so not widely available.)

PS - and the $1000 wouldn't be so bad but I think you can also never return to Canada!  Who among us wants to risk never being able to return to the Quetico?  A fate worse than death.  I wonder if it would prevent my sons from taking my ashes there?

Jim J Solo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 4:55pm:


If you mean you cross the border at Ft Frances and put in from CA side and plan to exit CA side?  Not a problem as far as I can tell.  However should your plan to exit on CA side change - like a serious medical emergency that requires you to be evaced somewhere - you might wish you had the passport with you.  (That is more the case if you enter on a RABC imho.)  On the other hand, I could see my passport being left at some site while I with a stroke or heart attack or some such malady am whisked away by air to Atikokan (or Thunder Bay?) for medical attention, and then its really hard to get.  It's one of those cases where I wish I had a redundant WHTI document or two.

Hmm? Is it my bad if I leave my Passport in my car while in Q if I crossed at Ft Frances?

By reading the CBSA site I would agree with OS. After calling I feel I will have to send for a new one. I was convinced by the mention of a $1,000 fine! Thanks Bill

People can decide if they want to rely in your interpretation if what it says (and dies not say) in a web site or my report of talkingvto a border agent in the office that issues the RABC - on two separate occasions. The fact is they don't know when you crossed the border and the Q permit is not proof of when you crossed the border.

Please prive me wrong with proof, not wishes and conjecture.

There's nothing personal here, I just believe in following the laws and hope all will.

Please calk the RABC office. They are wonderfully polite and understood exactly what I was asking, seemed very familiar with the subject and inquiry, and could not be talked out of it nor did they waiver at all. They didn't even try to hurry and would have continued to discuss it. Yesterday and several years ago as well.

True that winning the lottery seems more likely than being asked to show your RABC but I wouldn't go without a valid one. And I'm so cautious I wouldn't even plan on cutting it close in case I was weather delayed leaving. But that's me.

Thanks OS, I can't seem to connect with the CBSA site but I will check it out. I'm still pissed that they took that 2nd year away!
Winning!