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troutbreath
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May 4th, 2004 at 7:21pm
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I have collected a lot of suggestions that sound good.  I suspect that most canoe country food sounds good but some of it just plain stinks.  Sound off with your worst canoe camping food experiences!
  
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Reply #1 - May 4th, 2004 at 7:26pm
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Many freeze dried meals are OK and some pretty good, but many are really bad.

Last year with the church youth group we were given some freeze dreid Beef Stew by the outfitter-I will not name the brand. It was so bad no one could not eat it.  I took a youth with me to the far end of Bat lake, well away from any campsites, to bury the whole lot. There was enough stew to feed 7 people and probably more and we had to bury the whole pot. It took a big hole to get it down far enough to make sure it did not leech to the surface. If you are on Bat Lake this year and you see a big fat bear-he might have found the stew and dug it up.

Yuck!
  
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Reply #2 - May 4th, 2004 at 7:33pm
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Many freeze dried meals are OK and some pretty good, but many are really bad.

Last year with the church youth group we were given some freeze dreid Beef Stew by the outfitter-I will not name the brand. It was so bad no one could not eat it.  I took a youth with me to the far end of Bat lake, well away from any campsites, to bury the whole lot. There was enough stew to feed 7 people and probably more and we had to bury the whole pot. It took a big hole to get it down far enough to make sure it did not leech to the surface. If you are on Bat Lake this year and you see a big fat bear-he might have found the stew and dug it up.

Yuck!



LOL - would you believe THAT was the story that got me thinking about this topic? We are doing a food planning session this Saturday Night.  You can bet your beef stew will come up in conversation.

TB
  
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Reply #3 - May 4th, 2004 at 7:36pm
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"You can bet your beef stew will come up in conversation."

Maybe not the greatest choice of phrasing there TB!

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Reply #4 - May 4th, 2004 at 7:42pm
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"You can bet your beef stew will come up in conversation."

Maybe not the greatest choice of phrasing there TB!

LOL



Well, it is not going to show up on the menu (at least not your brand!)  Yeah, I could have not said it quite that way, but for effect, well, you know....

LOL!!!  Grin

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Reply #5 - May 4th, 2004 at 8:12pm
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I have collected a lot of suggestions that sound good.  I suspect that most canoe country food sounds good but some of it just plain stinks.  Sound off with your worst canoe camping food experiences!

This one wasn't terrible, but in the same respect it has never made the menu again.  AND bogwalker's story made me think of it because it, too, is beef stew.

The story is simple enough.  I saw "Stew Starter" on my grocer's shelf and figured to give it a go.  I bought stew meat and figured to dehydrate it.  Well, I didn't want to dehydrate it "as is", I thought it would go bad with out a preservative in it like salt.  So, I marinaded it, much like jerky, using soy sauce.  Dehydrated it the next day.  It came out good.

Now fast forward to the BWCA and the night we are going to cook it.  I figured that I'd have to rehydrate the meat for at least an hour.  I did.  It was still hard.  I had little choice than to procede because I looked at the directions for the Stew Starter and it said something like, "Bring to a boil and then simmer for four hours".  FOUR HOURS!!!

Well, it was about 5:00 pm.  Not only would supper be late.  I'd have to cook it on a fire because there was no way I was going to burn up four hours of stove fuel to cook this. 

Well, I had to get a fire going.  I had to tend the fire.  I had to collect additional fire wood. I had to be inventive to come up with food to appease the rioting masses while it cooked.

Finally it was done and served.  It looked good.  The meat, however, was still more than chewy, but the worst part was the salt content.  This stuff was saltier than movie theater popcorn!  The salted meat, along with the already high sodium content of the Stew Starter was enough to launch all of our blood pressure numbers through the roof.

We managed to choke it down but had to drink a few gallons of water each.

It was way too much work at home.  It was way too much work in camp.  It took way to long to prepare.  And it was way too salty. To this recipe I say ... NEVER AGAIN!
  
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Reply #6 - May 5th, 2004 at 1:22pm
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One trip I outfitted the food without anyone's help.  For reasons that are lost to me now, I bought powdered cream of broccoli and cream of asparagus soups.  My calculations (and this is extremely vague) were something on the order of a 1/2 gal./day/person of each soup, meaning I bought lots.

Nobody ate any, let alone a half gallon per day.  Never again.

However, for a number of subsequent trips we included the soups as a 'tradition' until, after a number of years, the soups soaked up enough humidity to become 'soup rocks'.

I think it was last year we didn't pack them...seems Danl didn't like carrying them, saw us trying to sneak them into the food pack and protested.  He hardly complains but for this stuff he was adamant.
  
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Reply #7 - May 5th, 2004 at 1:51pm
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About eight years ago I took my now wife to West Virginia's Cranberry Wilderness for her first backpacking trip. Since this was a spur of the moment 4-day trip, and I didn't have a lot of time to prepare, I took a couple of prepacked freeze-dried meals I had in my equipment box.

The first freeze-dried meal was okay but the second, which we ate on our last night out, was horribly and unedibly stale. Upon closer inspection of the packaging, I found a number of small pin holes from it being carelessly tossed around the gear box for a couple of years.  I guess air got in and did it's thing. My future wife was not amused since, when I backpack, I never bring extra food and we went to bed with only a handful of gorp.

She still brings it up!

Chuck

  
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Reply #8 - May 5th, 2004 at 4:08pm
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Freeze dried pasta and sauce (gravy for anyone one from Mass.) Tried it one time, was our last meal in the Q, 1984 and I have not had it since. I rather eat dirt.

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Reply #9 - May 11th, 2004 at 4:03am
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How can anyone compete with the grotesque nature of instant eggs? Grin

I think that those are the real weapons of mass destruction!
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 24th, 2005 at 1:01am
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Scrambelettes.  Actually a freeze dried egg product.  Should be banned by the FDA. At once.  Please.

When properly prepared these assume the look, weight, feel, color and I presume taste of an adult *** toy.

They burn quite well however. Tongue

Never take a new product in without testing it at home first.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 26th, 2005 at 4:24pm
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This summer I went hiking in WY.  We brought mix for lemon puff cake, which sounded good in theory, but was absolutely disgusting.  We ended up taking it part way up the nearest mountain and dumped it well away from camp.  I joked that there'd be a circle of dead pikas around it in the morning.
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 31st, 2005 at 3:32am
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I agree with freeze dried eggs.  I bought some last night, just to see if other evaluations were correct.  I cooked them this morning, eggs and bacon.  Styrofoam would have better flavor and chew the same.   Lips Sealed
Every once and awhile I buy something and bring it home to see what the consensus is.  This got a big thumbs down. 
We all love eggs, if someone has a good product let me know.
  
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Reply #13 - Jan 2nd, 2006 at 5:40pm
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i don't know how people feel about egg beaters but there way better than any freeze dried or powdered egg.
i froze my cartons before the trip and kept froze in cooler until put-in.
  i put in zip lock bag and buried in pack for insulation.
  when they thawed out i emptied cartons into a naglene bottle and wrapped bottle with a cotton dish towel that i had soaked in water.
i kept out of sun, under the seat or between pack and bottom of canoe.
the evaporation kept the eggs good and with a little diced onion they made a nice omlette.
of course i go in late may for walleye opener and the water is still cold.
if you had a small soft-sided cooler and did the evaporation thing i think they would last a long time??
i've also read on the Canadian canoing web site about cracking the whole eggs gently into a quart naglene bottle and "pouring" off what you need.
haven't tried that but if you can keep them cool then the worst you would have is "scrambled" eggs.
hope this is of some help??
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 2nd, 2006 at 8:53pm
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Powered eggs !!! The worst.
Have used a Nalgene bottle to carry fresh eggs many times.

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I realize I'm in the minority with my opinion, but PROPERLY MADE, with powdered milk, and bacon, ham, onions, peppers, mushrooms, and any other omelet fixins you may like, powdered eggs make great omelets. Wink Wink

free tip: put all ingrediants, mixes, use slightly less water than called for, etc into a nalgene bottle and SHAKE WELL. All the 'bits' help to dissolve all of the powders. Just pour into a hot skillet on indirect heat. Wink Wink 8) 8) 8)
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 3rd, 2006 at 2:23pm
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Is there a quality differance between freeze dried eggs and powdered eggs.  The ones I tried had good sized chunks of scrambled eggs.  Are powdered eggs precooked and then ground or raw and dried then ground?
  
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Freeze dried eggs are the Devil's Spawn, meant to induce vomiting, while powdered eggs can be rehabilitated like OS says.

Powdered eggs are uncooked (until you do it to them.)
  
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Thanks for the information, I will test the powdered on the family this weekend, if I can find some.
  
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Did you mean if you could find some family, or find some powdered eggs. Grin Grin

TTC is correct. Never confuse the two. FD is NOT powdered.
I got mine from a restaurant supply company.
  
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In one of my first trips in Quetico in the early 70's, our fearless leader packed the Coleman fuel next to the pancake mix.  I think everyone knows where this is going.  The morning we had pancakes everyone noticed that the pancakes tasted really strange and after eating the pancakes, everyone was burping gas.  I personally had what felt like heartburn for a couple of days.  In hindsight never pack Coleman fuel anywhere near your food.
  
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Reply #21 - Jan 4th, 2006 at 5:55pm
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Mac + Cheese

I hate with a passion M+C, but I usually take a box as emergancy food, hoping/planning that I'll not need it.

2 food stories;

A few years ago I got carries away and bought some freezed dried camping "food", including a couple deserts. I can't remember exactly which nore but maybe lemon pudding and a berry cobbler.  Both ended up tasting very bad and very runny. I think after a few bites we duluted it with a bunch of water and tossed it.

And many years ago, at the end of a 1 week/6 person canoe/fishing trip, all we had left was a few lbs of runny cheese and noodles (maybe Mac+Cheese) and maybe a few other things. Anyway, we put everything in a large pot and cooked it all up. When it was hot/warm we could dish it up, but when it cooled on our plates it was a very thick, stiff, gooy lump. It was probably 75% cheese. I don't remember what we did with it.

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Reply #22 - Jan 4th, 2006 at 8:47pm
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Westwood, I hope no one was a smoker!
  
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