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Reply #70 - Mar 30th, 2007 at 2:58pm
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Splendid idea!
  
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Reply #71 - Mar 31st, 2007 at 12:09am
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The classic recipe for is 1.5 oz of vodka (29 ml) to 1/2 cup of tomato juice (118 ml).  6.8 of these will fit in a 1 liter bottle.  So I figure I should add about 200 ml of Vodka, the spice packet, the tomato powder, and then fill it up and shake it good.  That ought to get me pretty close to a standard strength bloody mary.  I'm just not sure how much tomato powder to add.


29.6 ml equals one ounce. yo dont want your drink any weaker than it needs to be Wink

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Reply #72 - Mar 31st, 2007 at 8:39pm
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I am not a connoisseur of Bloody Marys (or any other drink that looks like it was dipped from a swamp  Smiley), but would instant tomato soup (if it even exists) work in place of the pure stuff?

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Reply #73 - Mar 31st, 2007 at 9:58pm
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thebutcher wrote on Mar 31st, 2007 at 12:09am:
29.6 ml equals one ounce. You don't want your drink any weaker than it needs to be Wink

You're right!  I only converted for one ounce.  Whoops!  It would be 44 ml of Vodka. The revised recipe for one liter would then be:

1. Add ~270 ml Vodka
2.  Add Spice packet
3.  Add [TBD} amount of tomato powder
4.  Fill to top with water

asmjock wrote on Mar 31st, 2007 at 8:39pm:
...but would instant tomato soup (if it even exists) work in place of the pure stuff?

I suppose it might, but I don't think it would taste nearly as good as the straight tomato juice.  Thanks for the idea though!
  
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Reply #74 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 4:15pm
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OK.  I have received the tomato powder and have all the ingredients ready to give it a test drive.  This morning I did a quick experiment to determine the approximate amount of tomato powder to add to water.  I compared Campbell's Tomato Juice against filtered water with powder added.  Both were room temperature.  It appears that the ratio is somewhere in the 2 tsp/100 ml range in order to match the viscosity of the commercial juice.

One note:  the powder/water mix wasn't as tasty as the commercial tomato juice.  I attribute this to there being salt in the commercial product.

So if that is correct, let's revise the recipe one more time:

For 1 Nalgene bottle of Bloody Mary's:

270 ml Vodka
Packet of bloody mary seasoning mix
7 tsp tomato powder (2.33 tbsp)
Fill to top with water

Shake to mix, drink!

I'd test it out right away but it's a bit too early in the day to get on the bottle.  Thankfully a weekend soon approaches and I can give it a proper test.  I'll try it first without adding salt, then try salt on the second time.   Probably not on the same day though.
  
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Reply #75 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 5:00pm
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lotalota wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 4:15pm:
I'd test it out right away but it's a bit too early in the day to get on the bottle.  Thankfully a weekend soon approaches and I can give it a proper test.  I'll try it first without adding salt, then try salt on the second time.   Probably not on the same day though.

Hey lotalota, Bloody Mary's are a perfect brunch drink, but if you are waiting for 5:00, remenber the immortal words of Jimmy Buffet, "it's always 5:00 somewhere".

Prost!

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Reply #76 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 7:02pm
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lotalota wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 4:15pm:
One note:  the powder/water mix wasn't as tasty as the commercial tomato juice.  I attribute this to there being salt in the commercial product.

So if that is correct[...]

Yes.  Salt is definitely needed for a tastier product.

I have a friend that works in a company that cans a lot of different juices and she noted that low-salt tomato juices are bland and unappealing.  It requires salt to make it flavorful, no practical way around it she says.  Use the salt proportions on the commercial tomato juice.  Tomato itself has very low sodium so you won't have to consider its contribution to the total sodium content.

Remember to convert the mg sodium to mg sodium chloride for weighing.
  
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Reply #77 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 7:24pm
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Good info!

The tomato juice I have lists on its government mandated nutrition statement 680 mg of sodium per 240 ml serving.  One teaspoon of salt contains 6,200 mg sodium chloride, of which 2400 mg are sodium.

I want to make approximately 700 ml of tomato juice.  This would mean I would need to add (240/700) = 2.92, 2.92 x 660 mg sodium = 1986 mg of sodium to add to 700 ml of liquid.  Further to figure total salt  use 1986mg/2400 mg per tsp = 0.83 tsp or 83% of a tsp of salt.

So add just a eyeballed bit more than 3/4 tsp.  Or round it up to a tsp just to make it easy.  An extra 1/4 tsp of salt isn't going to make it overly salty.

Does that sound right?
  
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Reply #78 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 8:28pm
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lotalota Grin Grin
 Your effort to get the perfect bloody Mary is to be admired Grin Grin
  Just a thought, instead of mixing the salt in the mix, how about taking a film can with shaker top and mixing up a batch of black/white. (coarse sea salt/coarse ground pepper)
Then just shake a little on top of drink as you go Wink Wink
You could use as food seasoning as well Wink Wink
Even add some Cayenne if you like your Mary with a attitude Grin Grin
  
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Reply #79 - Apr 6th, 2007 at 9:17pm
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Thank you for your thank you.  The bloody mary spice packet already includes the pepper and is quite spicy.  How do I know?

I've mixed up experiment one and have been enjoying my first glass.  It is definitely a Bloody Mary and will work well on trail.  The only modification I would make is to add one more tsp of tomato powder to thicken it up.

Here is the perfect recipe:

1.  Put 270 ml of Vodka in your 1 liter water bottle.
2.  Add one 2 oz Dimitri's Bloody Mary seasoning pack
3.  Add 8 tsp of tomato powder.
4.  Add 1 tsp of salt
5.  Fill nearly to the top with water, close bottle, and shake to mix.

Now only if one could find celery, olives, ice, and a swizzle stick in the wilderness!
  
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