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Cocktails, anyone?
Jul 30th, 2006 at 10:15pm
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I’ve been reading all of your posts for ages and usually find everything I need but I have a question that doesn’t seem to have a thread.
  Usually when my friends and I go canoeing we bring some small flasks for a few (or seven) after dinner drinks around the campfire.  I’ve kinda got bored with the whole juice/vodka/tequila thing and am looking for some more creative options.  Anyone out there have a good drink recipe they could share?  I’d really appreciate it.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 30th, 2006 at 10:43pm
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Welcome aboard, CampGirl. You will likely set a record for first post responses...the QJ'ers will be falling all over themselves... Drink recipes are like.....(you know)...everyone has one.

Personally, although a healthy imbiber at home I often travel to the Q sans alcohol. However, when I do pack the fuel I favor JD or other whiskey/scotch (Lafroig) which delivered via a nip straight or in a cup of coffee never fails to please.

But I suppose you are looking for real recipes....tough when cold beverages are nonexistent in the bush. Vodka (even a very nice Kettel One) somehow disappoints when combined with lukewarm Sturgeon Lake water and Crystal Light.  One year I premixed Capt. Morgan and Coke and froze them...so for the first 12 hours or so we had a relatively cold cocktail.

Vodka seems to lend itself best to the various drink mixes we bring to the bush. Other threads have discussed the relative merits of wine in a box.  I seem to remember Solotripper describing a Japanese freeze dried beer pill.  Like I said you'll get a ton of responses...I just can't really help you unless you can figure out how to get ice air lifted into your site.

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Reply #2 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 12:33am
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I, and apparently those who I paddle with  Undecided, enjoy plain ol' Yukon Jack.

If you need a recipe, Yukon Jack is just fine on oatmeal or pancakes  Smiley .

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Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 2:28am
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Yeah, there'll likely be a fair amount of posts on this one.  Cool
The real issue, at least in July & August, is getting the drink cold. Best I've been able to do is fill a nalgene with water, put it in a net bag weighted with rocks, and get it as deep as I can for about 30 minutes. I can't say the water is truly cold, but it is better than what you can get at the surface.  It's also a lot of work, and you still have to drink it before it gets warm again.
My personal preference is Bombay Blue Sapphire gin with Crystal Light iced tea. I call 'em t-bombs.

I once heard from a guy in Ely (in Cranberry's over a beer) about a guy who used the same technique to sink a 6-pack of beer somewhere between Moose lake and PP, then concealed and tied off the line along the bank somewhere. Days later, on the way out, he would retrieve the libation on the way back to Moose Lake and enjoy a cold one as he paddled in. I'm a little skeptical on this one, but stranger things have happened I guess.

By the way, booze is really cheap at the duty-free shop when I cross the border.

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Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 2:52am
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Not to be fussy but the scotch THE BEAVER mentioned is Laphroaig Single Malt! My favorite, awoken with a dash of clear BWCA water. Nothing better for the tastebuds around a campfire! My personal favorite is the 10 year old.

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Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 2:26pm
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Not to be fussy but the scotch THE BEAVER mentioned is Laphroaig Single Malt!

10-4...my spell check fails when it comes to single malts.
Laphroaig is mighty fine.

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Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 3:32pm
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If you're driving through Canada on your way to one of the Quetico northern entry points be sure to pick up a bottle of Wiser's De-Luxe Canadian Whiskey.  It's fantastic stuff and available at the duty free in Fort Francis for sure.  If you're looking for something that will go the extra distance, get Lambs Navy 151 rum.  Both are very good and you won't be disappointed.

As I've been traveling in Scandaniva recently I'm taking some exotic things when I leave in a few days.  Xanté pear cognac from Sweden, and Gammel Dansk bitters from Denmark.  If you stop by, be sure to ask for a toot.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 6:02pm
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:exclamationMost lakes have thermoclines at different depths.  If you can get below the thermocline the water will be 4 deg C at all times and can really cool off your drink.  The thermocline will shift with depending on the wind state but can be as shallow as 10 feet if the lake has been cold.  As far as drinks go however most good bar drinks require ice unless you go for the hot drinks like toddy's and buttered rum. I own a nightclub and its amazing the new stuff people keep coming up with.  Some of your cream drinks don't need to be cooled as much.  I enjoy many of the coffee drinks in the evening like Keoke, or Kahlua coffees or coffee with Bailey's also many of your stouter beers can be adequately cooled in the water or by wrapping with a cotton sock and allowing the wind to drop the temp.  Many of the really malty heavier bodied beers are frequently drunk too cold in the US (at least in my opinion) so that the true flavors don't get a chance to come through, a good malty beer really should only be around 40 deg F. One other thought is the chemical freeze packs available at hospital supply houses, they'll get your beverage down a few degrees especially if you place the bag and the beverage in a tight and well insulated container together. There are battery operated devices that will freeze on one side and heat on the other available from some of the electronic supply houses but I've never fooled around with one.  I enjoy a drink socially every once in a while but I am pretty much a teetotaler  when I am out in the wild. I use the experience to cleanse my mind, my body and my soul. Check out the "Old Mr. Boston" bar tender's guide, its still one of the best compilations of drinks in the busiess and always available behind my bar for reference: there is always someone coming in for a drink I've never heard of.
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 6:17pm
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I have always just done Whiskey and water, Maker's Mark or Crown. Simple and nice.

Usually just a couple fingers around the campfire before bed, except that 1 time on Robinson, ohhh man. I don't want to do that again.

Another couple of fun ones, I do.

Burley's Secret Ski Mix(used on most ski trips)- use these ingredients to taste- Hot cocoa, instant coffee (a little), Butterscotch Schnapp's, Whiskey. ) Warm this up and put into a 52 oz mug from Holiday and pass around the fire. (can be smaller mug for a smaller group.) Best on a cold night.

Peppermint Schnapp's and Cocoa, Bailey's and coffee.

We have also done a gimlet, withh vodka and Rose's Lime, and a touch of water.

  
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ALso I may want to add, put alcohol in at the end so as not to cook off the booze.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 31st, 2006 at 6:35pm
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I'm with you Furball-Maker's Mark straight up or with some wilderness water.

Other drinks I have enjoyed in cooler weather (Spring or fall) are Cider and Brandy or Cocoa and Kahlua. Both go over quite well while sitting around a fire watching the snows of October descend.

Nothing better-no bugs, no neighbors and a nice warm drink to finish off a day!
  
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Furball wrote on Jul 31st, 2006 at 6:18pm:
ALso I may want to add, put alcohol in at the end so as not to cook off the booze.


Is it possible to catch a buzz on fumes? Cheesy

Ya know, sometimes I wonder if a site that sold freeze-dried ice would fly. It would be great if it worked.

I'll take in a beer or two and drink 'em ~warm. When I get to the take-out I'll pound a room temp (or better) can from the trunk. It's traditional after all.

Cold is never cold enough inside the park unless I'm shivering - and then it defeats the purpose. Every night I've ever spent was cool enough to enjoy a warm drink. 151 and Swiss Miss always hits the spot.

There is nothing better than sipping two of those with my back to a small fire while looking at the Milky Way or even better while the lights are out or loons are calling. Most paddlers are probably sleeping then but that's when the edges of the season provide a welcome opportunity. In summer when it's hot, I'd rather nap mid day. I'd make one right now but it's 99.4 outside and I'd hate to stress the AC knowing the utility can/will cycle it off at any moment.

Damn! As I reread this the lights went out for a second. It's hot out. Ooops, there it goes again.
  
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The_Beaver wrote on Jul 30th, 2006 at 10:43pm:
Welcome aboard, CampGirl.  I seem to remember Solotripper describing a Japanese freeze dried beer pill.  

The Beaver


Yes, welcome aboard and as you can see, this post will get a lot of responses Wink Wink!
When  i made the post about "freeze dried beer", i was being entirely serious.
i talked to my brother-in-law after that post and got some more details.
seems the process was developed for some gourmet soy sauce which used "saki" in it's recipe??
Drying the other ingredients wasn't a problem, it was how to you keep alcohol??
seems they come up with some kind of "gelatin"that would hold alcohol but dissolve when rehydrated??
i'm telling you this because i KNOW we have some world travelers on this site and i wonder if anyone else has ever heard of this???
IF, there was such a thing, it would open up the beverage choice arena in a entirely new direction Grin Grin!!

  
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Haven't had a drink in 10 years....after 2 years I suddenly realized how booze had distorted my perception.....You really can take a canoe trip without sedatives....Hope I don't get censored here like I did for my opinion on another site! Tongue
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fishguts wrote on Aug 1st, 2006 at 12:09am:
Hope I don't get censored here like I did for my opinion on another site! Tongue


Certianly not fishguts.

fishguts wrote on Aug 1st, 2006 at 12:09am:
You really can take a canoe trip without sedatives


Well, I wouldn't call it a sedative - not on our trips anyway.  Good whisky in canoe country is like fine wine in Italy IMO.  Something about the two that enhance each other - in moderation of course.  Somehow, a select single malt just rolls around better in canoe country than when partaking in my kitchen.  Sure, I could do a canoe trip without it - but I could also do one without my fishing gear too - but the experience wouldn't be . . .shall we say, satisfying, for me, that is.

Anyway, I digress.....

Laphroaige 10 yr.  Excellent "cool weather" scotch.  As is Oban 12.  Yukon Jack compliments anything IMO.  Makers Mark or Woodford Reserve are great campfire, cribbage burbons.  I avoid any clear type alcohol - gin, vodka, rum, teqilla and the like - these (agian, IMO) don't reflect the nutty, earthy, dirty environment of canoe country.  

The Phantom Jug makes a keen effort to be "appropriate" for the setting.   Wink

And being drunk in canoe Country is never appropriate
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Smiley PhantomJug,

I appreciate the tolerence of opinion.
I know some can drink with moderation, and that's OK by me, but I couldn't, and 10 percent of the population has the problem. For me the Canoe Country is wonderful without the booze.
Thanks again.......fishguts Grin
  
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Wink I'm with you, Fishguts.  The only chemicals my body needs in Canoe Country is a little ibuprofen to target those aching muscles, you know the ones you don't even remember having until after the second or third portage?  I don't want the senses dulled because I've got to soak up everything and make it last until the next trip.

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Spiced Apple Cider with a shot of Captain Morgans Spiced Rum. The combination is good warmed, aka; a hot tottie in my circle of wilderness travelers. Got to be real careful it goes down quick and then sneaks up on you.

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As far as drinking and canoe trips goes I think it depends on how it is used.  Obviously, it is a bad decision to drink and then paddle or portage.  If any drinking is done on my trips I make sure that all the work is done and that no paddling, swimming, or other potentially hazardous actions are taken.

I did a number of long northern trips in the 80's and paddled one one with a semi-famous fellow (not who you might think, I can't stand THAT guy) and we followed his tradition of a pre-dinner cocktail.  As the days were long and difficult, we had a system where once the tents were up, gear put away, and a designated person was cooking dinner on the stove we would have a small shot of rum and some salty snacks while we waited for dinner.  This was a nice way for everyone to relax and get together in cameraderie.  I thought that was a good idea.
  
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My drinking is only at night as a nightcap and is only one drink which by no means is enough to get me intoxicated. Everything in moderation as they say.

I would not ever suggest to anyone that they drink and paddle. Paddling while intoxictaed (PWI) is a dangerous hobby. Plus I would hate to carry all the alcohol plus other stuff that would be required to get me intoxicated.

If I am going to be out for a few days-I determine down to the ounce how much I will need to have a night cap on a couple of nights and only bring that much. If I happen to run out early so be it. If I have some left on the last night it all gets used up. Even then usually there is never that much left that last night.
  
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Fishguts, i give you a lot of credit for recognizing you COULDN'T" drink in moderation and putting  your LOVE of the canoe country ahead of your need to self medicate?
The reason i became a SOLOTRIPPER is because i had friends who couldn't do that and rather give up canoeing than drinking to excess!!
i'm with the drink after all is done crowd Grin Grin.
after supper is cooked,wood chopped and fire is made, i enjoy a couple of nightcaps before bed, unless i'm planning on staying up real late??
lucky for me, i have low tolerance for alcohol so before i get "drunk", i'm usually on my knees in front of the porcelain throne Embarrassed Embarrassed!!
When i was young and wild, i hated the fact that i couldn't keep up with my friends!!
Now, i'm glad i couldn't because there lifes revolve around booze and partying and that's not where i want to be Wink Wink!!
My choice at night is a few "irish" coffee's arounf the campfire Grin Grin
  
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fishguts wrote on Aug 1st, 2006 at 12:09am:
You really can take a canoe trip without sedatives


FWIW, that is how I take most trips, so no problem here  Smiley.

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151 rum (or 190 proof "brandy"), lake water, and crystal light.  High percentage alcohol provides more calories per ounce of weight than dehydrated meat or carbs.
  
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We usually take a Platty or two.  One always has Crown Royal.  The other Platty contains another whiskey which various from each trip.   The Platty makes 2-4 trips around the campfire in the evening.  We usually drink it straight up, but sometimes it gets cut with water.

As others have stated, having some adult beverage enhances the canoe experience when done in moderation.

A couple of us like to smoke cigars around the campfire in the evening also.

We don't need the booze or cigars on the trips, but it is our reward at the end of a hard day's work.

I have never been drunk in canoe country and I never will get drunk in canoe country.  Time is too precious up there to waste on being drunk.

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My favorite is the spiced apple cider with a shot of Jim Beam Black.  It is very good warm, but truely awful if it cools off.  I have one and a cigar most every evening after dinner or after coming in from fishing.  It is just a nice way to end the day.

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Usually once per trip we all drink a little more then we should and pay the price in the morning.  The moral debate over alcohol or no alcohol has not yet seriously entered into dicussion for our group.  But most days we drink in moderation.

That being said,  We do try out various ways of creating drink mixes.  This year we tried Bloody Marys.   They turned out very well.   It is a very hardy drink, its sorta like getting to eat and drink at the same time.  

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Interesting topic, my wife and I were discussing a menu and what to have with the food. 
I like the spiced drink idea.  Previously I was a cognac person, nothing like a bit of VSOP to wind down with.  And sharing it with others was even better.  Can't wait for this trip with my best friend.

  
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I guess the best coctail I've ever had in the Bwca has got to a Dry Ice Martini.
It used to be I would eat poorly when in country. But as ideas progressed we figured out how to eat WELL. Dry ice is definately extra weight I don't mind having to carry. Nothing like being able to eat ribeye for supper 4 days in. One small cube or some shavings in a nalgene bottle with some stoli and a little vermouth, well shaken in a coffee cup is all it takes. Wink
  
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Well, I have always prefered Rumplemintz my self, straight up with a nice Boundry water chaser, but another favorite of mine is the ole vodka and Tang.  Screwdrivers are not just for breakfast anymore Wink
  
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I never would drink such a thing at home, being an avid home brewer, but a quality tequila and some lemon crystal light now again is a good thing to me. (all drinking debates aside)
  
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great post campgirl!   Its tradition for our group to bring ice cold Hienies in; froze,wrapped in newpaper with a frozen steak, upon our first night in we drink cold beer and grill steaks;packing out the crushed cans of course Wink

But last June coming out of Conmee L we got hailed on like crazy. Thank God we'er portaging into Williams L at the time, it hailed so hard it cover the ground like snow. By the time we finished the portage it quit; the other guys had to go back to pick up a couple of packs, mean while my dad & I collected ice hail for some cold drinks for when they got back. WOW! If God gives you ice better use it.

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Wow, that brings back some unpleasant memories.  I used to own a beer bar in Lewiston, Maine and every once in a while we'd get a load of beer that had some frozen cases and it turned bitter when it thawed. How do you freeze beer without it getting bitter?
  
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Don't hate us 'cause we like to partake in a lot of libations.  We carry in 3 ponies of beer, 8 bottles of baileys (for coffee and the like and we put them in nalgene bottles - no glass), 5 bottles of blue 100 (they're little and pack a punch - mix with hot chocolate), 2 bottles kettle one vodka (again in nalgene and mix with either kool-aid, ice tea, or lemonade), 1 bottle VSOP (don't mix or add a little lakewater), and 1 bottle of Jim Beam (in nalgene - mix with water).  I know these aren't very thoughtful but they work for us.  ---  Pax
  
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WHAT, no stripper pole and nubile maidens Grin Grin
  
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Wow Shocked
  
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Pax wrote on Feb 14th, 2007 at 9:30pm:
2 bottles kettle one vodka
nice. the finest vod, IMO.
I cast no stones upon your drinking prowess.
Bottoms up.

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For 14days I generally take along 1 small flask of baileys Smiley, 1 large flask of Stolli Smileyand 1 large flask of JW Black. Smiley.
So not really casting stones.
Just in awe. Smiley
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Reply #37 - Feb 16th, 2007 at 4:11am
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Sorry Pax - I still respect you but I have to comment

3 ponies of beer -  Smiley  Not worth the effort and it taste much better once out of the park.
8 bottles of baileys -  Smiley  Just how many women do you bring with you?
5 bottles of blue 100 -  Smiley  What?  Are we still in High School?
2 bottles kettle one vodka -  Smiley  If you have to have clear liquor at least you picked good stuff.
1 bottle VSOP -  Smiley Smiley - Brandy?  Not exactly the stuff "Born of Hoary Nights."
1 bottle of Jim Beam -  Smiley  With there so many more better American Bourbon's out there - why Beam?  (Do they still use rice?)

On quantity I give you a neutral rating - It seems excessive but then, what is excessive anyway?

On quality -  Smiley - sorry pal.

No offence I hope buddy.

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Pax wrote on Feb 14th, 2007 at 9:30pm:
I know these aren't very thoughtful but they work for us.  ---  Pax
Hey Pax, you never indicated the size of your group.  Just a reminder that nine is the limit.  Since you obviously have a "legion" I hope you split up.  Finally,  I hope you are "thoughtful" enough to respect the values of other canoeists and keep your "party" noise levels so you don't disturb the rest of the wilderness.
  
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Reply #39 - Feb 17th, 2007 at 6:30am
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Uhhhh, starwatcher, I think that's just Pax's personal beverage supplies.  I think the rest of his group has to pack their own in....
  
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starwatcher wrote on Feb 16th, 2007 at 11:16pm:
Pax wrote on Feb 14th, 2007 at 9:30pm:
I know these aren't very thoughtful but they work for us.  ---  Pax
Hey Pax, you never indicated the size of your group.  Just a reminder that nine is the limit.  Since you obviously have a "legion" I hope you split up.  Finally,  I hope you are "thoughtful" enough to respect the values of other canoeists and keep your "party" noise levels so you don't disturb the rest of the wilderness.


Our group is anywhere from 6 - 8 guys and I don't think that we are disrespectful to anyone but ourselves up there.
  
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I'm hurt Phantomjug! Wink  Out of everyone here I thought you'd be and advocate of mine.  We use the Baileys like creamer for our coffee in the morning or at night.  I agree that the blue is not very good but it will make you feel good.  The Kettle is MINE (but I do share).  My excuse for the beer is that we are from Wisconsin and we need some to boil our brats in.  (Yes we really do bring in brats).  That is all the defending I can do this morning.
  
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Grin Grin Grin What I want to know is there one tent that smells like puke! Wink Wink
don't let the good times kill ya! Smiley


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I am your advocate Pax and will defend your right to pack in what ever you can carry.  "Wisconsin" explains a lot though.  Wink

Just don't tell me what's in the keg's.  I'm afraid to know.
  
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Pax wrote on Feb 17th, 2007 at 3:01pm:
Our group is anywhere from 6 - 8 guys and I don't think that we are disrespectful to anyone but ourselves up there.


That explains it, now that I understand that you must spend three months per canoe trip without restocking.  Wink   Just Joking and not to be judgmental; we bring our ration of our favorite drink of choice - Northern Surprise (Tequila and Lemonade) and other high energy adult drinks (flavored brandy).

But the important part is we all appreciate everyone's efforts to not not be
disrespectful to anyone up there.  Thank you!!! The loons I want to hear down the lake are birds.

Thanks again.
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Furball & Bogwalker have it down pat. Maker's Mark with a little lake chaser. Smooth!

We usually take about one pint per person per 5 day trip.
  
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Reply #46 - Mar 3rd, 2007 at 7:14pm
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I saw this post on another BWCA website and couldn't help but think of hearing the loons down the lake.  Not accussing anyone, like I say, we bring in our share, but we try to be respectful of the people down the lake.

"Only stayed there one night after a late drive up last year, but didn't like it. The access is too easy, one short paddle, short portage, you're there! We actually unloaded the canoes on a nice island site then heard the idiots across the bay - way, way across the bay - & moved to the furthest south campsite to get away from the noise. On our way out we encountered a large party with wine boxes & Wild Turkey bottles piled over the gunwhales coming in."


  
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We always bring some Saki for a change midweek. Goes well with our Asian meal that night. Of course it's served warm, which makes it the most convenient indulgence possible.
  
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billbo, IMO Saki=bad, warm Saki=Very bad  Tongue Tried it a few times, maybe it is an aquired taste.   

I like to celebrate the wilderness so some VSOP cognac is smooth and really warms you up.  Warm or room temp works for that drink.  Wink
  
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fishinbuddy wrote on Mar 7th, 2007 at 12:26pm:
billbo, IMO Saki=bad, warm Saki=Very bad  Tongue Tried it a few times, maybe it is an aquired taste.  

I guess Sake is just like many other drinks.  There is good stuff and then there is undrinkable.  Gekkeikan Sake is among the more popular brands you'll find in this country.  However, to my personal palette, I find it drinkable only under duress.  In my opinion it should only be used for cooking purposes.  However, Momokawa Diamond (or better) Sake is more full bodied and has more character.  Even its color suggests a smoother drink.

... and although I prefer my sake atsu-kan (piping hot), this is very much a matter of personal taste and some brands even recommend serving it cold.

Kanpai!

However, for backcountry trips my tastes tend to run more in the direction of sipping than drinking, i.e., liqueurs.  Irish Mist is my current first choice.  A maximum of 2 oz. enjoyed to a setting sun makes a grand end to a perfect day.  If the weather is cold enough, then I'll add 1 oz. to a cup of hot spiced apple cider.  On other trips, I might take Grand Marnier ... again in roughly the same proportions.  However, my side drink of choice here would be black coffee.  (This combination also works wonders is you have a head cold.  If it doesn't open your sinuses, at least you won't care too much!)

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I of course only sip the finest of blah blah blah blah.


Give me four fingers of whiskey, i'm not picky.
Dump in some tang, sit back and hang.
  
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Dump in some tang, sit back and hang.

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Give me four fingers of whiskey, i'm not picky.
Dump in some tang, sit back and hang.


I would probably enjoy most anything I think it is the place not the booze. 
Except Saki, and dd, I have tried the good stuff  Tongue the sushi was good though.
  
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We've found that a small Bloody Mary bar is quite nice on our annual spring, base camp/fishing trip on the S. Kawishiwi River.  Just the essentials though-1.75 of vodka, 2 jugs of Famous Dave's blazing inferno mix, asst. pickled stuff (asparagus, green beans, peppers and pickles), sharp cheddar, venison snausage, dijon mustard, worchestershire and a bit of onion and garlic salt.  Ice would really top things off nicely, but we prefer to keep to our minimalist approach, and leave the non-essential pleasantries at home.
  
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lol bmaines.  youll fit in well here.  ive thought of bringing in cubes supplemented by dry ice.  

my mix is basic because im a clear liquor guy.  this year will be crystal lite (per many thumbs up ive read) and vodka or everclear.  or vodka AND everclear (more bang per liquid ounce...less weight)

my goal isnt to get blotto....but hey?  who doesnt like a nice little buzz now and then.....Smiley

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Crystal Light and vodka Smiley
Crystal Light and everclear Smiley
Hot chocolate and everclear  Smiley Smiley Smiley
  
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As I said much earlier...
Crystal Light Ice Tea and Bombay Blue Sapphire Gin = "T-Bombs"
Crystal Light Raspberry and Bombay Blue Sapphire Gin = "Razz-Bombs"

Not to get hammered, but one or two at sunset is a pleasant way to relax around a small campfire and reflect on the day.  Smiley
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The last time we brought "Everclear"  it got used more as a mouth wash each morning-don't bother brushing your teeth this stuff will strip your mouth clean Grin Grin
not to mention the small buzz you get at seven in th morning! Wink WinkLOL

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I remember wedding receptions in North Dakota they always served Everclear & Koolaid.
  
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Could always use it as a backup stove fuel alternative. Grin
  
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or...a really expensive fire started.   Jan
  
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BWCA-blues wrote on Sep 1st, 2006 at 7:51pm:
Here is the recipe:
1- 2oz package Demetris Bloody Mary seasoning packet
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1- quart tomato juice -mix from tomato powder
  - Vodka to taste   

Cheers,  BWCA-blues


I ordered some of those Bloody Mary seasoning packets and then realized I needed the tomato powder too.  Where do you get the tomato powder?  Is there a cheap source?
  
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lotalota wrote on Mar 19th, 2007 at 7:43pm:
I ordered some of those Bloody Mary seasoning packets and then realized I needed the tomato powder too.  Where do you get the tomato powder?  Is there a cheap source?


You can check (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) or (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) for tomato powder.


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flpaddler wrote on Mar 19th, 2007 at 8:58pm:
You can check (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) or (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) for tomato powder.

flp


Thanks.

Ok.  The Adventure Foods product is $4.95 per 0.25# while the AlpineAire is $3.95 for 38g or 0.084#.  So it would appear that the Adventure Foods, as packaged, is the better deal.

How much tomato powder do you need to make a quart of tomato juice suitable for an on-trail Bloody Mary (when using the previously linked mix)?  Any idea?
  
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Lotalota,

I'm not sure what the mix ratio is, but I would highly recommend that you order some and test it over an over at home before trying in the BWCA. Practice makes perfect. Wink
  
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bilbo,

Not a bad idea!  However, if anyone else does have an approximate weight to volume ratio I would love to hear it.
  
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I guess I'll have to experiment as apparently there are no other on trail Bloody Mary drinkers.

I found a better price for the tomato powder (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links).
  
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lotalota wrote on Mar 19th, 2007 at 9:23pm:
Ok.  The Adventure Foods product is $4.95 per 0.25#

If you looked at the bulk foods list the stuff is actually $9.30/lb.

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Thanks.  I didn't notice that when I first looked.

I have received my order of bloody mary mix packets and when I get the tomato powder I'll have to experiment.  Each 59 ml seasoning packet (liquid) is for 1 quart of mix (0.95 liters) and I assume these will need to be made in a 1L water bottle.

The classic recipe for is 1.5 oz of vodka (29 ml) to 1/2 cup of tomato juice (118 ml).  6.8 of these will fit in a 1 liter bottle.  So I figure I should add about 200 ml of Vodka, the spice packet, the tomato powder, and then fill it up and shake it good.  That ought to get me pretty close to a standard strength bloody mary.  I'm just not sure how much tomato powder to add.

The down (or up) side to this is that if I do this on a solo trip I'll have to drink nearly 7 bloody marys to finish the bottle.
  
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If having 7 bloodys to drink is the downside, you could always mix up 2 bottles. Roll Eyes
  
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Splendid idea!
  
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The classic recipe for is 1.5 oz of vodka (29 ml) to 1/2 cup of tomato juice (118 ml).  6.8 of these will fit in a 1 liter bottle.  So I figure I should add about 200 ml of Vodka, the spice packet, the tomato powder, and then fill it up and shake it good.  That ought to get me pretty close to a standard strength bloody mary.  I'm just not sure how much tomato powder to add.


29.6 ml equals one ounce. yo dont want your drink any weaker than it needs to be Wink

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I am not a connoisseur of Bloody Marys (or any other drink that looks like it was dipped from a swamp  Smiley), but would instant tomato soup (if it even exists) work in place of the pure stuff?

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thebutcher wrote on Mar 31st, 2007 at 12:09am:
29.6 ml equals one ounce. You don't want your drink any weaker than it needs to be Wink

You're right!  I only converted for one ounce.  Whoops!  It would be 44 ml of Vodka. The revised recipe for one liter would then be:

1. Add ~270 ml Vodka
2.  Add Spice packet
3.  Add [TBD} amount of tomato powder
4.  Fill to top with water

asmjock wrote on Mar 31st, 2007 at 8:39pm:
...but would instant tomato soup (if it even exists) work in place of the pure stuff?

I suppose it might, but I don't think it would taste nearly as good as the straight tomato juice.  Thanks for the idea though!
  
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OK.  I have received the tomato powder and have all the ingredients ready to give it a test drive.  This morning I did a quick experiment to determine the approximate amount of tomato powder to add to water.  I compared Campbell's Tomato Juice against filtered water with powder added.  Both were room temperature.  It appears that the ratio is somewhere in the 2 tsp/100 ml range in order to match the viscosity of the commercial juice.

One note:  the powder/water mix wasn't as tasty as the commercial tomato juice.  I attribute this to there being salt in the commercial product.

So if that is correct, let's revise the recipe one more time:

For 1 Nalgene bottle of Bloody Mary's:

270 ml Vodka
Packet of bloody mary seasoning mix
7 tsp tomato powder (2.33 tbsp)
Fill to top with water

Shake to mix, drink!

I'd test it out right away but it's a bit too early in the day to get on the bottle.  Thankfully a weekend soon approaches and I can give it a proper test.  I'll try it first without adding salt, then try salt on the second time.   Probably not on the same day though.
  
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lotalota wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 4:15pm:
I'd test it out right away but it's a bit too early in the day to get on the bottle.  Thankfully a weekend soon approaches and I can give it a proper test.  I'll try it first without adding salt, then try salt on the second time.   Probably not on the same day though.

Hey lotalota, Bloody Mary's are a perfect brunch drink, but if you are waiting for 5:00, remenber the immortal words of Jimmy Buffet, "it's always 5:00 somewhere".

Prost!

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lotalota wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 4:15pm:
One note:  the powder/water mix wasn't as tasty as the commercial tomato juice.  I attribute this to there being salt in the commercial product.

So if that is correct[...]

Yes.  Salt is definitely needed for a tastier product.

I have a friend that works in a company that cans a lot of different juices and she noted that low-salt tomato juices are bland and unappealing.  It requires salt to make it flavorful, no practical way around it she says.  Use the salt proportions on the commercial tomato juice.  Tomato itself has very low sodium so you won't have to consider its contribution to the total sodium content.

Remember to convert the mg sodium to mg sodium chloride for weighing.
  
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Good info!

The tomato juice I have lists on its government mandated nutrition statement 680 mg of sodium per 240 ml serving.  One teaspoon of salt contains 6,200 mg sodium chloride, of which 2400 mg are sodium.

I want to make approximately 700 ml of tomato juice.  This would mean I would need to add (240/700) = 2.92, 2.92 x 660 mg sodium = 1986 mg of sodium to add to 700 ml of liquid.  Further to figure total salt  use 1986mg/2400 mg per tsp = 0.83 tsp or 83% of a tsp of salt.

So add just a eyeballed bit more than 3/4 tsp.  Or round it up to a tsp just to make it easy.  An extra 1/4 tsp of salt isn't going to make it overly salty.

Does that sound right?
  
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lotalota Grin Grin
 Your effort to get the perfect bloody Mary is to be admired Grin Grin
  Just a thought, instead of mixing the salt in the mix, how about taking a film can with shaker top and mixing up a batch of black/white. (coarse sea salt/coarse ground pepper)
Then just shake a little on top of drink as you go Wink Wink
You could use as food seasoning as well Wink Wink
Even add some Cayenne if you like your Mary with a attitude Grin Grin
  
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Thank you for your thank you.  The bloody mary spice packet already includes the pepper and is quite spicy.  How do I know?

I've mixed up experiment one and have been enjoying my first glass.  It is definitely a Bloody Mary and will work well on trail.  The only modification I would make is to add one more tsp of tomato powder to thicken it up.

Here is the perfect recipe:

1.  Put 270 ml of Vodka in your 1 liter water bottle.
2.  Add one 2 oz Dimitri's Bloody Mary seasoning pack
3.  Add 8 tsp of tomato powder.
4.  Add 1 tsp of salt
5.  Fill nearly to the top with water, close bottle, and shake to mix.

Now only if one could find celery, olives, ice, and a swizzle stick in the wilderness!
  
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lotalota wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 9:17pm:
Now only if one could find celery, olives, ice, and a swizzle stick in the wilderness!


NEXT thing you'll want is a NUBILE young maiden SERVING your Bloody Mary Grin Grin
  
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Good idea!
  
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NUBILE

I love that word.
  
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we need a face for guffaw....................
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solotripper wrote on Apr 6th, 2007 at 11:22pm:
NEXT thing you'll want is a NUBILE young maiden SERVING your Bloody Mary Grin Grin

I don't know ... sounds better every time I read it!    Smiley
  
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PhantomJug wrote on Apr 7th, 2007 at 2:59am:
NUBILE

I love that word.


I DON'T know why that word seems to be a go to word for me Huh Huh
I remember hearing it on some PBS special about the ancient Romans and the host a British guy kept saying it with that accent that made it sound so sexy and mysterious Wink Wink   It just had a certain ring to it and is one of those words that just kind of rolls off your tongue Wink Wink
  
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attempting to bring this thread back to life. I have another question for everyone.

Has anyone had "ONe of those nights" up there, where drinking and conversation went far beyond what you expected? As I mentioned mine on Robinson, I'll explain the story here.

Arrived at campsite around 5:00-6:00ish in the afternoon. Rain had started to come down. Our thought.... Let's have a coupe drinks and wait out the storm, thinking it would blow over soon and then cook dinner. The Rain picked up and continued dumping and we continued drinking. and drinking and drinking, it didn't slow down. the rain or the drinking.

It had become the night of the Carnival, as we now refer to it. The conversations were great and the jokes hilarious. Quoting forest gump, etc... The wind blew so hard the grommets on our rain tarp blew out. So we decided to just stand in the water and continue with cocktails. We finally ate dinner around midnight. We were not quiet this night, we yelled and sang and joked. Luckily the wind was howling so hard and the rain pounding so hard you couldn't here each other from ten feet away, so there is no way we disturbed anyone other than our own internal Organs.

Then came the solving of the words problems, political banter, and a bunch of loose footing.

Bed Time finally came around 4:00 in the AM.

I will never do it again, and didn't really mean to do it then, but man o man I will always remember (albeit fuzzily) ((is that even a word)) The evening on Robinson and the terrible hangover the next day....

I have a funny video with some pictures I could possibly set up here if anyone is interested. Not sure how I could do it, and the file is too large for Youtube.
  
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Late for this thread. After much trial and error my brothers and I developed the quetico martini.

1 500 ml nalgene bottle
1 fresh lime (small and pack well) sliced and squeezed into nalgene and then pushed into nalgene
1 cup premium tequilla
1 cup clear quetico water (preferably from Louisa or its ilk)
Shake violently and share
  
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  Has anyone had "ONe of those nights" up there 


Our first day out we almost died, going from French to Trouser in low water and an under-supply of drinking water because many of our water bottles were filled with 151-rum.  We got in late, and fell into bed without eating.  The next day all we had in front of us was the 4000 meter portage from Trouser to cache (that is what it is on one map, it may be shorter but is till a monster).  Cache has a campsite on a wide beach area and our maps at the time only showed that one campsite.  It was occupied.  There was a solist there who had been traveling for a month, having not spoken to anyone during that time (except for an occasional shout to passing canoes.  He was gald for the company, especially given our supply of rum.  He invited to us to join him, so we camped down the beach away from where he had camped. So we set about celebrating our survival of the first two days.  And we figured we had two-days ration of rum to drink since we had not had any the night before.
We swapped stories with the solist and continued drinking past the two-day ration.

Well things got way carried away.  Our group had two females (maybe part of the reason the solist was willing to share the campsite), and one decided to go skinny dipping.  The soloist saw this as a sign that it was not.  There was no violence, but he did have to be forcibly convinced the naked lady was not a gift to him from the Quetico gods.  We ended up spending a second night camped there because there was no way we were going to do the 3850 meter portage from Cache into McKenzie with the hangovers we had.
I am not sure the solist remembered anything about what happened the night before, he was that drunk. But he did move, heading the other direction to Trousers.
  
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Rum and tang, Captain to be specific. Mix at 3:1
  
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Laphroig& a splash of Quetico lake water would be my first choice, but I may have to try Solus' Q martini--there are some awfully tasty tequilas out there.  Hennesey cognac, Busnel Calvados...my buddies prefer Meyers rum and Tang.
  
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Any Islay Malt is SO CHOICE Springer.  Nice!  

If you like Laphroaig you might like to try Caol Ila (12 yr) and/or Ardbeg (10 yr).  Of course Lagavulin is the standard (if I have the $$)They don't have these at Duty Free but they should be readily available elsewhere.

I think I'll pour myself a finger or two right now in fact.
  
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Do these other Islays have the smoky, tarred-rope taste of Laphroig? I am also fond of Lapsang Souchong tea which has a similar smoky flavor.  I have read that the Lapsong Souchong flavor comes from the smoking of the tea leaves over pine wood--I wonder if a similar process is used to produce the Laphroig flavor?  One nice bonus for me is that Laphroig is a little too wild for most people so it last a lot longer, which is good because it is fairly pricey.
  
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The predominant characteristic of the Islay Malts is the phenolic, briney, charred wood flavor, so yes, smokey would qualify; peaty might be a better description.  More note-able is the absence of what the other regions produce, i.e. more nutty, carmel, coffee, apricot or fruity notes on the palettes.
  
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Speaking of "fruity notes" I could name a few of them around here.   Grin
  
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PhantomJug wrote on Mar 28th, 2008 at 8:03pm:
Speaking of "fruity notes" I could name a few of them around here.   Grin


That would be SMARMY.
  
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I  dont usually take anything with to Q....but a few years back I had kidney stones when I went....  my cure was a quetico golden margarita.   the flask contained half 1800 especial gold and half gran marnier.  Pack that in and fill a cup half way and the other half with lemonade mix and water..(mixed so strong that its tart) its great...and also guaranteed to take the edge off
  
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After a recent back packing trip I now concur with my canoe partner that rum and tang is fantastic. We decided thats what is coming up to the Q with us this year.
  
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