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Thanks for not answering my questions and turning my concerns into a complaint.

I am sure a renigade bear will also piss off other campers

I am sure that the personal alarm you are ALL TALKING ABOUT WILL NOT DISTURB ANY CAMPERS!

If your dogs only bark when there is a problem it should not be a problem for others. I am sure banging pots together to scare a bear would be a little lound in the wilderness and also disturb others.

I am sure people would not complain after understaning the reason for the barking. Because If I had a problem with a bear I would be considerate enouph to let other campers in the area know what was going on.


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i agree with the multiple pulley system over a single.
last year was the first time i went to a multiple system and after seeing DBs excellent presentation, i decided to give it a try.
i knew about the advantages from my construction days but had always been content to just "muscle" the pack up.
while i'm still able to do that, after seeing the ease with which you can lift a heavy pack, it's really a no brainer to go to this system IMO.
Single pulley or multiple your still looking for suitable trees and putting up at least 2 ropes, so it's no more work but it's certainly LESS work especially if not everyone in your (group?) isn't up to the task?
The modified pulley azalea posted is  interesting variation of the one here on QJ.
i notice it's on a external frame pack, so some modification might be needed to hang a Duluth style pack but that's a minor thing?
i'll have to give it a try next trip and see how it works for me??

 FWIW- saltski, i think your taking the comments much to seriously??
more likely than not, it's just a little BARBED humor, nothing to get upset about??
Of course, ANY noise in the wilderness that isn't part of the landscape is disturbing to other's!!
Whether it's my alarm,yelling and banging pots or anything else including barking dogs!
i don't think anyone begrudges a fellow paddler doing what they need to do to thwart a marauding bear??
i think the comment was just a little attempt at humor in regard to people who let there dogs bark INCESSANTLY just because there outdoors??
WE all can be smarta**'s on this site, don't take it personal, in most case's it's just that sometimes it's much funnier in your head than when you type it out and post it .

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Yes it is a minor thing.  The two ropes could be attached to each other with the food container also attched at that point as you do now, hanging below those ropes. The big difference is the container is raised by taking the slack out of the "horizontal" ropes, not by pulling down on a rope attached to the middle of the horizontal rope. Try it and see how much better it works.

I use a similar system to the one db posted, but with a few changes.  First, I abandoned the pulleys on the top rope.  I use heavy duty carabiners.  I know there is way more friction this way, but I got tired of stringing everything through the pulleys.  With the biners, I just snap the line through and go.  I still use a pulley at the pack, though.  For the "lifting" rope, I just use some braided nylon cord.

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I'm not so sure about dogs and bears.  About a week ago I met a guy paddling down McEwen creek that had just recently paddled up to a large bear he saw on the shore.  He had a medium sized dog who was yipping at it and  he told me the bear jumped into the water and started swimming toward him.  As in the bear wanted to eat the dog.

I have a good friend I hunt with in The Pas, MB who camps in the bush with his hunting dog (labrador).  On two separate nights the bear jumped on his camper and tried to get in although the dog was barking and growing.  Then the bear tried to ambush the dog in the early morning and nearly caught it.  It was a black bear, just like the kind we have down here.

This tells me that a hungry bear will want to eat a dog.  Maybe the BW/Q bears are docile and not terribly dog-hungry.  But if it was me I wouldn't assume that a dog would scare away a bear, but rather be an enticement to it.