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 25 Portage Boot Recomendations (Read 158451 times)
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #190 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:00pm
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I'm thinking of ditching these laces on the OTB boots. The surface seems extra slick to me and I suspect they will come untied (as reported by several here on QJ).

I bet round laces would work well with the cord locks. New laces that don't come untied will probably negate their need however.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #191 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:16pm
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mastertangler wrote on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:18pm:
I missed it somehow. Got the cord locks from Brigade quarter masters and am not the least bit impressed. I got three packs and they all perform the same on the OTB boots which is to say they don't.

That was my initial impression.  However, I hadn't "unloaded" the spring.  Mine came with the springs under tension.  I had to mash the cord load "head" pretty hard on the first one before it came to life and worked properly.

I've used the cord locks on both flat (OTB) and round (Vasque) laces.  The locks seem to work perfectly well on either.

I'm off to do a 6 mile cord lock test (on my hiking boots).  I'll report back if I have any problems  ... of course I had no problems on the cord lock/laces for the first 200 miles, but who knows!   Wink

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Reply #192 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 8:39pm
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Well I guess I need you college educated retired types to show me how it's done because as it stands right now (and I will use latin) they are suckee maximus.

I am pleasantly surprised with the bloucing garters you threw out. They work much better than I imagined. Extremely small light and compact. I got the elastic ones and I like them better than a velcro strap. I will probably just use them biking though since I'm going in with gaiters.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #193 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 9:43pm
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Suckee maximus  Smiley
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #194 - Dec 13th, 2010 at 11:55pm
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I think you'd be dutifully impressed when you get them working right.
The convenience thing is a nice feature, but the eliminating of lace loops was the major factor in my using them.

Sure you can tuck your laces in around the boot tongue. I did for years with my sport/work boots, but sooner or later they come untied or snag up on roots ending with you doing a face plant Embarrassed

Your gaiter choice will keep your lace loops from being a potential problem, but if they have the elastic cord/ cord loop under your boot instep , then that's another possible snag and fall hazard on the right terrain Huh
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #195 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 12:13am
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Neil
I've monkeyed around with them for 10 minutes and even tried doubling them up. No dice. The OTB laces are flat, thin and slick. The locks just can't seem to get a bite. I understand why they come untied easily.

I know DD and I think Jimbo (I could be mistaken on the latter) are using them but I can give mine a tug and they slide up. I am thinking round laces that are shorter so I don't have any excess material flopping about. I bet that would be the ticket.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #196 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 12:47am
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Yeah, I have the OTB's.  I like the boots but encountered problems with the lacing when I needed problems the very least (heavy pack on back, swamp &/or slippery conditions underfoot).  One QJ'er (Neal?) put me on to these jewels: see (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) .  They look like they would solve the problem.  I intend to pick up some before my next trip.

Jimbo   Cool
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #197 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 1:17am
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Yo Jimbo
That's exactly what I have. I will be interested to hear how you fare.
  
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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #198 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 2:12am
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mastertangler wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 12:13am:
Neil
I've monkeyed around with them for 10 minutes and even tried doubling them up. No dice. The OTB laces are flat, thin and slick. The locks just can't seem to get a bite. I understand why they come untied easily.

When you press the cord lock head down and release it (without a lace through the hole) is there any gap showing in the lace thread-thur hole?  The ones I have show no space at all.  This places the plastic "wedge" in the center of the "plunger" ABOVE the edge of the hole when closed.

BTW:  I didn't cut down my flat laces on the OTB boots, but I do stuff the ends under the elastic lace pouch at the top of the tongue.

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Re: Portage Boot Recomendations
Reply #199 - Dec 14th, 2010 at 3:49am
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After the release all I see is the spring. Not exactly rocket science. I am puzzled though, here there are 2 people whose opinion has weight with me saying these are the trick.

Either the expectation level is different, the laces are different or these are the "new and improved version" (outsourced to China).

They worked acceptably well on round light hiking boot laces but I can't imagine heading into combat with these. Naturally the finest fighting force in the world will improvise with what they are given.
  
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