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Jan 22nd, 2009 at 3:14am
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Help me out here... which method do you prefer cooking over a small stove or cooking over an fire grate with the campfire?? And why??
  
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Re: Cooking stove or over fire grate...
Reply #1 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 3:24am
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Ninety percent of the time I cook with a small stove.

1) necessary if I get to a park/camping area and a fire ban is on
2) quicker to fire up
3) heat is easier to control
4) will light even when conditions are not ideal (e.g., day long rain).

The clear downside is the extra weight (which for me is mostly in the fuel--I carry a light weight stove).

All that said, I still love a camp fire and will occassionally use it for cooking.

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Reply #2 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 4:30am
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I use a fire for Lakers & dishwater (no connection), and a stove for everything else.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 5:40am
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I use a full size Coleman stove.  It gives a sturdy base and has two burners.  Wood is a lot of work, messy and hard on the knees.  We always make a "table" by tieing two pole to two trees and putting a webbing around the two poles.  Once it is setup we can cook standing up plus have a place to put dishes next to the stove.  The table is also very handy for doing dishes.  The table also comes in  handy when it is  time to eat.

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Reply #4 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 6:23am
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I used to rely on a stove for everything, but I got tired of it. It's one extra thing to carry around, plus the fuel, which I never learned how to conserve. While it is nice to wake up in the morning and have a cup of coffee in under five minutes, and have the ability to cook, etc. more easily under the tarp on a rainy day, it isn't worth the extra hassle to me.

With a fire, I feel like I get more out of my time in the woods. I mean, how often do I get to use a fire to cook? Not nearly often enough. Sure, it's a pain sometimes to gather wood, feed it, and extinguish it when I have to leave it alone, but really, it's just another part of the game. Fire building and management, and fire cooking, is a lost art.

If I get rained in and can't keep a fire going, I eat cold food, and use my filter to get drinking water. Not a big deal. In a real pinch, a small fire can be built with dead pine and birch bark, even under the tarp. It doesn't take much to prepare a quick meal, and such a small fire can be made and extinguished without leaving a trace. But really, before doing that, I'd spend the day eating jerky and granola bars, and it wouldn't be the first time I've eaten dehydrated food reconstituted with cold water.

Makes the sunny days that much better, right?

Besides, fire keeps me busy and it keeps me company. The need for firewood is just another reason to hop in the canoe and go explore. Though I wish that more people would leave their sites to gather wood, as some that I've seen in my limited travels have been horribly denuded by lazy campers. But that boils down to the whole respect and manners thing, and I don't want to get started on that...

If done right, the only thing a fire won't save you is a little bit of extra time.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 1:25pm
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from Akula's reply, I'd guess that he is a base camper.  Cooking over a fire works ok for that style of canoe camping.

Me, I travel every day but 1 - last few years, that's 1 layover day out of 11 or 12 days in, covering 130 to 150 miles or so, with lots of portages.  I don't have the time to "cook", not the desire to "cook" on a canoe trip.  All I ever do is boil water, the only exception being maybe to cook fish over a fire on the one layover day.  If I took time to "cook", I'd have to alter my plans, shorten my loop, spend less time paddling - don't want to do that.  "Cooking" over an open fire is not a part of why I go to Quetico.   I might have a small fire in the evening to burn trash, or I might only do that every 3rd day or so - minimul wood needed for that.  If its been raining steady for the last three days, I don't bother at all.  At camp, I want to relax, not "work" to gather and cut and maybe split wood.

So a stove - the small and lighter the better - is the way I go.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 4:10pm
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I cook over a wood fire most of the time.  Occasionally I have to take a stove due to fire restrictions; and I'll have to say it is nice to have a quick and hot meal on a wet day.  I usually travel every day but don't think the fire building takes a lot of time and I can usually find dry wood.  Sometimes campsites which are almost wood-less will have beaver wood along the shorelines under the brush...lots of campers don't use the beaver wood approach.  If it is wet and late in the day I sometimes just eat cold items but really miss a hot cup of coffee.  Cooking on the BW grates can be difficult, they are too high to be able to cook on a small twig fire, so you have to find quite a bit of wood to get a hot fire going.  I bring along a small camping fire grate and build a little fire just in front of the grate area, balancing the grate on a couple rocks.  When done I just shove the coals back into the fire pit.  When going with 4 or more in the party we usually bring a two burner camp stove, it makes cooking for a group so much easier.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 4:44pm
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Stove (Pocket Rocket).
Why? Faster and cleaner. Easier to control heat.
If I spend a day or two base camping I will cook some fish or breakfast over a fire.

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Reply #8 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 5:00pm
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I use a stove for coffee or if I need a quick 1-pot meal. I prefer a fire - to me food tastes better when cooked over a fire. Maybe it's the smoke, maybe it's the quality of heat, or maybe it's that I'm really hungry by the time I get a fire going and the food cooked.  I usually carry a small lightweight welded wire fire grate to make the whole experience a little easier.
  
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Reply #9 - Jan 22nd, 2009 at 8:47pm
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I'd fall into the 50/50 group on this one.  When cooking for a group of more than 5 people, I'd say cooking over a fire is just about a necessity.  Besides, there are many to share in the camp chores.  However, I find that for smaller crews, 1 or 2 backpacking stoves is all you need.

Cooking over fire certainly is a dying art form.  You'd be surprised at how many boy scouts go to the BW & Quet. without ever having cooked on a fire.  Sure, they can build a roaring bonfire pretty quickly, but most don't know how to tend a good cooking fire worth a darn. 

There's just something so amazingly relaxing about taking your time to prepare a fire and cooking over it.  But then... I rarely draw dish duty...
  
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