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Reply #20 - Mar 23rd, 2009 at 11:09pm
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He didn't mention bi-polar bears!  But he did ask the crowd, (standing room only) which is more dangerous:
1. a wild bear, never experienced with people
2. a hunted bear, one that has been shot at and knows that aspect of humans
3. a habituated bear, accustomed to people

almost everyone said # 3.  Jacobson said NO!  Jacobson said it's the wild bear...specifically, the YOUNG wild bear just kicked out by mama.  He equated this bear to a young teenager....their brains not quite fully formed. Very unpredictable.  No fear. 

How do you know what kind of bear you're looking at?  Circumstantial.  He said, if you see a bear in full daylight come into camp...be VERY wary...most habituated bears will sneak in at night.  The full daylight bear has no fear and you don't know what he/she will do.  Jacobson said in this case body language is very important.  Look big.  Put on your pack.  Look confident.  Get in a group if you have one.  Grab the little kids if they're around and put them on your shoulders.  Young bears like this are bullies, and if they think you're bigger, and not afraid, based on body language, they'll move off. 

I have a summary sheet...if I could figure out a way to put it in electronic form, I'd share it here. 

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Reply #21 - Mar 23rd, 2009 at 11:59pm
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  That's why some of us carry Bear Spray, in the event we confuse a #1 with the other two Grin
  
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Reply #22 - Mar 25th, 2009 at 2:29pm
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How many instances of injury from Bears have been recorded-in the BW and the Crown Country? Curious also about the demographics-activities, was there a dog present, sex of the humans and bears, etc. Are there links and such......What about big cats?
  
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Reply #23 - Mar 25th, 2009 at 6:52pm
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assuming you are only referring to canoe country and not grizzzly country -

off the top of my head, 3 fishermen killed by a single predatory black bear in Algonquin Prov park - 10 or 15 years ago - they were spread out along a stream fishing, and the bear stalked each one in turn and killed them

about 3 years ago - Missinaibi Lake (Ontario) - a woman was killed at camp, her husband got chewed up some while he was trying to rescue her

about 3 years ago - on a portage, a bear attacked a solo paddler and/or his dog - guy killed the bear with his knife

no cats -( they just follow me around (in CO) - on average in CO there are maybe half a dozen bears chewing on people issues - in 2000, a drought year, it was more like a dozen cases - search QJ and you'll find several cat threads, and many times several bear threads)

but doggies

wolves killed a surveyor trainee (I think he was) in the winter at a logging camp in Sask? or Manitoba ?  tracks in snow clearly showed that the guy was stalked and run down by the wolf pack - um, 2? years ago

2 or 3 years ago - wolf attacked a child on a beach BC I think, near Vancouver - mom saved the kid, but got bit some


there may be others, those are the ones that come to mind


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Reply #24 - Mar 26th, 2009 at 1:46pm
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Thanks-mad mat
  
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Reply #25 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 4:30am
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Read Cliff's article and can see what you mean.......Hey Cliff can you answer the question?
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:16pm
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I do what SnowDog does, regarding choosing camp carefully (page 2 of this thread).  I also gave up carrying bacon, too much fat weight compared to what food value is in it.
  
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Reply #27 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 2:49pm
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Mmmmm...bacon!

I'm a Homer Simpson when it comes to my bacon.  You can have it when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands.

I precook my bacon at home to about 80% done, then mash it between paper towels to soak up as much grease as possible.  Then I transfer one meals worth onto a new paper towel, wrap it up in the paper towel, and then vacuum seal it.  These packages start the trip frozen and I just open one anytime the menu calls for it.

My bacon stays fresh for 10 days at least (as long as my trip lasts) no matter what the weather.  I do keep it in the soft-sided cooler to keep it cold as long as possible, but even before I started bringing a cooler, I had no problems with spoilage.

When I pull it out to use it, I just heat it up in the frying pan after the rest of breakfast has been cooked.  Warm it gently or you'll burn it.  I usually end up with a teaspoon or two of grease at most to dispose of.  You'll also have a greasy paper towel to burn but as long as there's no fire ban, that's not a problem.

Mmmmmm...bacon!
  
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Reply #28 - Apr 2nd, 2009 at 10:59pm
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Sometimes we bring a bag or two of real bacon bits on our trips, just to add some extra taste to macaroni casserole, eggs, or chicken wraps.
  
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Reply #29 - Apr 6th, 2009 at 1:47am
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I thought the Bacon thing was a doggy treat commercial and Homer was into the BEEEr thing. I am with yah on the bacon thing.  Chocolate cake thing always brought them into camp for me!
  
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