Why..do...so...many...people...here...use... the ellipsis...incorrectly???   

I agree with  Bumabu about the Forest Service enforcement activities.  I called in a complaint that the people at the camp across the bay from me were singing "1000 bottles of beer on the wall" and there were still 581 bottles on the wall when I called.  Yet nothing happened!  Nobody bothered to paddle out and investigate??  They had some lame excuse about the activity I was complaining about being legal.

You might not like or agree with what I'm about to comment, though I've noted...

In harsher climates the law is often allowed to be bent a bit more than in more benevolent areas.

Perhaps pervasive behavior as a sometimes needed survival mechanism, though sometimes abused.

It aint so civilized.

Theory related to a decade, plus, of observation of behaivior of Northern folk....self, more or less, inclusive.

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BWCAW Rules and Regulations
The following are enforceable Forest Service regulations (maximum penalty of $5,000 and/or 6 months in jail).
Travel Permits
You must enter the BWCAW at the entry point and on the entry date shown on your permit.
You may not re-enter on a different date using the same permit.
Permit stubs become invalid when the group leader exits the wilderness.

Group Size
Nine (9) people and four (4) watercraft are the maximum allowed together in the wilderness.
You may not exceed the limit at any time or anywhere (on water, portages, campsites) in the BWCAW.
Smaller groups increase your wilderness experience and decrease the impacts.

Toilet Facilities & Water Quality
Use latrines at designated campsites.
Latrines are not garbage cans and should be used for the intended purpose only. Personal waste items such as cigarettes, cotton swabs, or plastic feminine products should always be packed out and should never go into the latrines.
If you're not near a latrine, dig a small hole 6 to 8 inches deep at least 150-200 feet or more back from the water's edge. When finished, fill hole and cover with needles and leaves.
Bathe and wash dishes at least 150-200 feet from lakes and streams.
All soaps pollute water including soaps labeled "biodegradable."

Containers
Cans and glass bottles are not allowed.
Containers of fuel, insect repellent, medicines, personal toilet articles, and other items that are not foods or beverages are the only cans and bottles you may keep in their original containers.
Food may be packaged in plastic containers that must be packed out with you.

Food and Fish Remains
Try to plan your meals so you don't have leftovers. If you do, pack them out.
Dispose of fish remains by traveling well away from campsites, trails, portages and shorelines.

Campfires
Fires are allowed within the steel fire grates at designated campsites or as specifically approved on your visitor’s permit.
Bringing a small camp stove may be a better idea because it heats food more quickly, has less impact than a fire, and comes in handy during rainy weather.
Due to the potential fire danger, fire restrictions may be put into effect. Check on current conditions just prior to your trip. You may be required to use a camp stove if there is a campfire restriction.
If you build a fire, burn only small diameter dead wood found lying on the ground. Do not burn trash.
Collect firewood away from campsites by paddling down the shore and walking into the woods where it is more abundant.
Wood easily broken by hand or cut with a small folding saw eliminates the need for an axe.
Drown your fire with water any time you are going to be away from your camp or at bedtime. Stir the ashes until they are cold to the touch with a bare hand.
Transporting wood from out of state is prohibited.

Campsites
All members of a permit group must camp together.
Camp only at Forest Service designated campsites that have steel fire grates and wilderness latrines.
Make camp early in the day to ensure finding an available campsite.
It is illegal to cut live vegetation for any reason.
You may camp up to fourteen (14) consecutive days on a specific site.

Storing Watercraft
Only watercraft and equipment used in connection with your current visit may be stored and left unattended.
All equipment and personal property must be carried out with you at the end of each trip.

Cultural Heritage
Leave archaeological, historical, and rock painting sites undisturbed.
The use of metal detectors is prohibited.

Firearms & Fireworks
Discharging a firearm is prohibited within 150 yards of a campsite, or occupied area, or in any manner or location that places people or property at risk of injury.
State game laws apply in the BWCAW.
Fireworks of any kind are illegal.

Pets
Dogs impact wildlife and barking intrudes on the experience of others. They must be under control at all times.
Dispose of fecal matter 150 feet from water sources, campsites, and portages, or deposit it in a latrine.

Motor-Powered Watercraft Regulations
Motor-powered watercraft are permitted only on the following designated lakes. All other lakes or portions of lakes within the BWCAW are paddle only. Motors may not be used or be in possession on any paddle-only lake. No other motorized or mechanized equipment (including pontoon boats, sailboats, sailboards) is allowed.


Lakes With 10 Horsepower Limit
On these lakes, the possession of one additional motor no greater than 6 horsepower is permitted, as long as motors in use do not exceed 10 horsepower. - Clearwater, North Fowl, South Fowl, Seagull (no motors generally west of Three Mile Island), sections of Island River within the BWCAW.

Lakes With 25 Horsepower Limit
On these lakes or portions of these lakes, the possession of one additional motor no greater than 10 horsepower is permitted, as long as motors in use do not exceed 25 horsepower:
- Basswood (except that portion north of Jackfish Bay and Washington Island), Saganaga (except that portion west of American Point), Fall, Newton, Moose, Newfound, Sucker, Snowbank, East Bearskin, South Farm, Trout.

Lakes With No Horsepower Limits
- Little Vermilion, Loon, Lac La Croix (not beyond the south end of Snow Bay in the U.S.A.), Loon River.

Portage Wheels
Mechanical assistance is only permitted over the following: International Boundary, Four-Mile Portage, Fall-Newton-Pipestone and Back Bay Portages into Basswood Lake, Prairie Portage, Vermilion-Trout Lake Portage.
Non-Profit Organizations
A group must have an official tax-exempt status to qualify as a non-profit organization. If your permit reservation is audited, your group must be able to produce a tax-exempt number. All the people on the trip, with the exception of a guide, must be associated with the non-profit organization. Non-profit organizations may reserve as many permits as they like. However, there is a limit of no more than three (3) permits within a permit season to be reserved under the name of any one non-profit organization name as the Organization name associated with the Permit. Additional permits can only be reserved under a specific person's name as group leader with no association to the Non-profit organization.
The only benefit to reserving a permit having an association to a non-profit organization's name is that the permit may then be issued to anyone who can prove affiliation with the organization in the same location. For example, if a permit is reserved with an association to Non-profit organization "Girl Scouts, Troop 16, Chicago" then anyone affiliated with that particular organization may have the permit issued to her/him. When reserving a permit associated with a non-profit organization, the non-profit organization's name, address and a contact person for the organization is required. The Customer profile must be under the contact person’s name and the organization under profile must be set to the Non-profit Organization. The representative of the non-profit organization that actually picks up the permit becomes the group leader, must remain with the group for the duration of the trip, and will be responsible to see that the group follows BWCAW regulations. Please contact the Forest Service office nearest your planned entry point for additional information about reserving permits planning for non-profit organizations.

BWCAW User Fees
User fees are required for all overnight visitors to the BWCAW between May 1 and September 30.


For all of you able to read, which doesn't look like is many, these are the rules and they were broken.  The very first thing the rules say is that they will be enforced by the FS.  What part of this are you guys not getting?

YOur point with citing the the reg. and the pict?  Hey wally-45 acp at gander in EP was $40/50...could not believe it...I saw 19.95 /50 1.5 monthes ago. Back to the firex2 gig. Here is a little story regarding enforcement...a little boy was being thumped on by his MOM, was vocalizing it, had bruises, and was an ongoing issue. The abuse laws (statues-written law) are crystal clear in the , as I have read them repeatedly. The abuse was of a felony level, based on what the law stated. I much dialod with the county juvi attorney, her boss ( the county attorney, repressentives for the sheriff's office (x2), and a few pita socal workers. Yep nothing happen....they did nothing...actually they refused...Said that their funding was to tight and they wanted to have a more "solid" case. Well the abuse continued until I made a stand...or maybe it was a threat...or maybe it was a more of a commentary upon the state of the state...so again B what was your rub with the gunfire and the fire....really? It appears to go beyond the simple aspect of the regulations-because they were not being shattered (reckless maybe)from the information that you have supplied here....mind you I was not there. Properness is in the eye of the beholder... ... ... and there are a lot of different kinds of isms.

AH? we have run into the "wESTERN wAY" again...to solve the problem when it is a problem. Hasn't the guy that was said to have started the Hamm Lake fire been in Court and Sentenced. Fires are  a part of the natural system, we as humans have just turned it into something terrible...in our super intelligent heads. Of course the burning homes in the land of fruits and nutts assisted with this evolution. Sure fires are expensive if one puts them out, builds homes in ecosysytems that are fire driven, and for some I suppose that from an aethetic perspective they have a hard time with the carbon issue....But who of us even thinks about this when jumping in the car, bus, train ,plane, or whatever? I dont believe you B....what is the rub again anyway? A big campfire? Come on  Pissed off at the forest service because you feel like they yanked your chain...did not do what U thought they should have done? Not being taken seriously? What is the issue? I am not trying to be an ass here....just curious...What is the real issue?