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Trip timing
Jul 19th, 2009 at 1:33am
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It seems as though the majority of QJ contributors take their trips in the May/June time frame, the mass population trips in the July/August and relatively few people trip in September or later. I understand scratching that cabin fever itch as soon as possible in the Spring along with catching the fish looking to shake the winter blues as well. I also understand the "out of school" timing of July and August. I am somewhat confused by the comparative lack of use of the parks once the summer gives way to Fall.

In my opinion, the Fall is second only to spring from the standpoint of fishing success, the lack of traffic should be a positive for those looking for some peace and quite, warm days and cool nights are ideal for spending time out of doors, and it's hard to beat the beauty of a Fall day especially in a setting as rare/exceptional as the Q or BWCA.

Do folks just not report as much on Fall trips, are the parks truly that empty, or am I missing something?

Just curious,
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Re: Trip timing
Reply #1 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 2:18am
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Well, JChief, you may get many different answers, but mine will have several facets.  First of all, we don't fish, so that isn't a factor for us.  I, personally, love the spring for a variety of reasons:  I love the fresh green colors, the fact that the campsites aren't trampled down.  I enjoy photographing and just seeing the spring flowers (iris, bunchberry, marsh marigold, violets, pink ladyslippers, wild lily of the valley, etc.) and seeing the loons, especially the nesting loons or the families with chicks.  But mainly I appreciate the longer days.  We have taken one September trip and one October trip.  We found the short amount of daylight hours frustrating.  This was especially the case in October.

Fall trips are wonderful, too.  As you mentioned, there ar warm days and cool nights.  I like misty mornings and those are in abundant supply.  And the lack of traffic is a real plus.  We are going in early September this year (we go to the BW) and I am sure we will enjoy being there at that time.  But I will miss some things about spring.  And next year I hope to go in June again, in spite of the fact that it is the buggy time!  Just my two cents.
  
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Re: Trip timing
Reply #2 - Jul 19th, 2009 at 6:35am
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I like spring before the Park opens. There's that wonderful flexibility of no quota plus it's easier to find those little used portages ... to see where you're going to and just generally get around in the forest. I walk around a lot and like the new growth... To me it seems there are also more overcast days and since I hate that pesky, unrelenting sun.... That's when fishing is at it's worst IMO.

Summer - June, July, ya, more fish, people, flowers and bugs but man, the liven gets easier and easier. The place is just so forgiving compared to the shoulder seasons. Three days of solid cold and rain are rare and the weather is more predictable. Things are starting to get overgrown.

I'm hamstrung by my kid's schedule lately so the dog days are darn nice too. It's normally calm except for the afternoon storms. Even timing on clouds gets predictable but vegetation is not as pretty by then. Fishing is better than spring it seems.

For a lot of years I'd do an early May and late Summer or early-mid Sept trip. Wife and friends trips were always summer. Frost is always worth it and even I can get my butt out of the sack for an almost guaranteed foggy morning.

Later Sept, Oct., well, it seems to me that the wind starts picking up again by then. Not something to look forward to when your paddling a tandem solo on bigger lakes and those types of patterns last longer then than they do in spring. Bug report - what's a bug?

I'm a wimp for cold, but can handle ice out 'cause I know the trend will/should be to warm. Never tripped much into October if at all for that reason alone. Dry years you can get good 'fall color' pics way earlier than 'peak'.

The last few years it sounds like the weather has been strange in the upper midwest. It was highs in the 60s and overcast at my home the last few days. That would be perfect IMO. Go figure. Anytime ... expect the worst - hope for the best.

Hmmmm, There's a bar graph of Quetico visitors around, personally, I'd love to see my own trip history on a graph. May would be a wall, late June would probably be a valley with some zeros and early October would be a cliff. I know what the graph for interest in QJ looks like. For a seasonal type thing, people hang around into late November more than normal. Again, go figure.
  
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Re: Trip timing
Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 12:36pm
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a lot of us do other things in the fall - hunting season (archery) for me usually starts the last saturday in August, and runs thru the end of Sept - then its fall turkey, and deer rifle seasons.  Not to mention the climbing trips, and canoe trips on the local rivers.    My calendar runneth over and late spring is my best window of opportunity for a trip to Quetico - nothing agianst the fall, and a fall trip is on my someday list.
  
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Re: Trip timing
Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 1:37pm
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Have been thinking more and more about a fall trip, so thanks for pitching it. We often go in early July to take advantage of the "extra" vacation day provided by Independence Day. Funny that we're usually in Canada. Otherwise, we like to go early to mid August to escape the dog days of summer in Phoenix and now Baton Rouge. That being said, the next time we get a hurricane here in Sept or Oct, I may load up the truck and head due North.
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 8:44pm
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Nothing can beat the warm afternoons and crisp air of autum......1st week of Oct is my time.  Only thing that can ruin it is 2 days of rain and 40 degrees.  More often than not, I luck out with any prolonged wettness.
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 20th, 2009 at 11:06pm
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This year you can go in July and get October weather.  Too bad it's not the good kind of October weather...

Seriously, there has been no summer as of yet up there.  Wild strawberries are still producing and blueberries just started to get going good the past couple days.
  
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Re: Trip timing
Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:54pm
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Tell ma about it! The weather has been horrible. Mostly overcast and cool without a drop of rain. I am heading to Q on Friday and if the forcast holds, we will be greeted by a week of rain.

I like the August lazy trips to lay around and swim. If I am planning a trip that is based on seeing alot of new water, I go for the spring or fall when temperatures are cooler and it is a little less punishing being on the water all day.

Can't beat the Fall up in this neck of the woods.

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Re: Trip timing
Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 1:54pm
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Longtime "summer tripper" who made the switch to September a few years back.

Next year:  back to summer tripping. 

Why?

Prolonged stretches of cold, ugly weather on both September trips.  Endured a hard freeze, plus plenty of cold wind and rain--for days on end.

No swimming.  Fishing sporadic (I'm no expert, but usually do well in summer).

My gear is summer-weight stuff--warm enough to keep me alive in 25 degrees, but not sufficient to let me ENJOY 25 degrees. 

Love the "no people, no bugs" of early fall, but will take a pass on the "I'm freezing my a** off, and where are all the fish?". 

Warning to new fall trippers:  take the average temps with a grain of salt.  Pack for weather 1 month later than your actual trip date.




  
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Re: Trip timing
Reply #9 - Jul 24th, 2009 at 7:00pm
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Traveller wrote on Jul 24th, 2009 at 1:54pm:
 
Warning to new fall trippers:  take the average temps with a grain of salt.  Pack for weather 1 month later than your actual trip date.


That's good advice and in the spring you should pack for earlier than your trip date IMHO
 I'd rather have to unzip a warm bag, than shiver and shake in a cold one Wink
  
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