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BrownTrout01
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Re: Baking on a Stove
Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 6:47am
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azalea wrote on Aug 19th, 2009 at 1:44am:
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True. When my wife baked biscuits, she first browned the outside in the frying pan, then baked them.   Turned out great.  And does not require an additional piece of equipment.


As usual, I am impressed by the wealth of knowledge. I also like hearing about different ways of doing the same thing.









  
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Reply #11 - Aug 20th, 2009 at 3:45pm
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Yep woodsy I definitely feel the same way about the Outback, dual purpose fry pan, and the just add H2O products...dont be afraid to hit the egg necessary ones too-freezed dried eggs can be substituted for the real ones( my best recollection is 1.5 TSP FD egg mix in .25 cup H2O=one egg)...this opens up the doors for cakes both stored bought and from scratch-say ginger bread, or chocolate chocolate chip berry cake, or peach yellow cake...pound cake is on the list to adapt Wink. Beware recipes and store bought cake mixes need to be reduced as most will not fit into the smaller Outback's pan-one trail cake=1/2 box mix with the Betty c. and Pilsbury mixes-experiment with the from scratch ones. Yeasted breads are also a real possibility, its a piece of BREAD Grin, I use both bread machine mixes( they fit) and from scratch. The bisquit thing for me is accomplished by mixing in a zip lock and then cutting a corner off the bag and squeezing dough into the pan-think cake decoration- a bit less messy IMHO. Cakes and corn bread(Jiffy, 2 will fit) I mix directly in the pan. Yeasted bread I mix in zip lock and rise in bag or in the Outback(on low heat) depending on weather/temps. I to use the top pan for a cutting board, saves on the no stick surface in bottom pan. I also use the pans to store the leftovers, if there are any; one can stretch a larger zip lock so that the pans can fix inside-be sure to cure/dry the goodies b4hand so those crusts dont get soggy Cool and the goodies dont get smushed in pack! YUM YUM Grin And backed/poached fish(LAKERS and others) I put fish in open foil boat with herbs and other specials(butter, lemon juice, and such) and add H2O and cook in  the oven-an alternative to pan frying Wink As far as the stove that I use it is a MSR dragon fly-very control-able simmer-er/heat, I just wish they were quieter Shocked...tried Optimus but had issues with clogging jet multiple time for every meal on the first trip-it got returned when I returned-may have been my fuel...but I have had no problemas with the MSR for many years! We also do pizza too-Betty C. crust mix...mix in pan, a little olive oil in pan and in dough w/ additional herbs of choice, then partially cook crust, dried tomato pieces on crust and sauce and toppings...go easy on toppings so the crust does not get soggy. Cheesy
  
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Re: Baking on a Stove
Reply #12 - Aug 30th, 2009 at 6:51pm
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Marlin and E1 else thanks for the tips.

Going just on intuition, the outback oven has seemed to me like good bet for a lightweight, packable, multi-use addition to the kitchen gear; and based on the reviews I do intend to try one in the future. Unable to pull the trigger on buying one yet though.

So far I have been unable to find any foil insulation in my area. I did call one of the companies that manufacture the stuff, and they did not recommend it for use around food, near flame or for temps over 200 deg. The guy I talked with said the foil is 99% aluminum with 1% of some type of fiber that wasn't good to breath the fumes of. He didn't mention anything about the plastic bubble wrap. Perhaps after fully heating the bubble wrap foil a few times the problem of noxious fumes is solved? He recommended trying aluminum foil to build an oven.

Recently I aquired a 6.5 cup jello mold from canoefly on the bwca site. Since I only wanted one jello mold, and he had some extras from ebay, it seemed like a good deal for us both, thanks canoefly! Made a heat deflector yesterday from a $1 round stovetop burner ring by using 3 stainless steel bolts for a riser (based partially on a plan from canoefly), and put a pot lid with vent slightly open on top to trap the heat. We have a silicone baking sheet, and plan to try incorporating that into use for a lid in the future, perhaps with a way to view the contents without fully removing the lid. The whole contraption with a metal lid weighs just over a pound, not including the nuts and bolts.

I tried the oven out last night with a Krusteaz, fat free, just add water, honey cornbread mix. I used an MSR dragonfly, and set the burner as low as it would go without the flame going out. The stove's wind shield fit nicely around the oven. A small baking thermometer placed outside on top of the lid confirmed a temp of around 200 deg. Forty-five minutes later the cornbread was still not done, and I slowly kicked the heat up a bit until the thermometer read 250. Long story short, I ended up finishing the approx 1" thick cornbread indoors in the kitchen oven. The bottom and top edges finally came out lightly browned.  

I did bake a few 'control' muffins indoors to see how I liked the mix. They are edible, but I can honestly say that I prefer the Jiffy mix that requires egg and milk. Will try that one with powdered egg next time. The final results on this round of indoor and outdoor baking was fairly similar, although I did finish off for a couple minutes indoors.

One thing that I initially forgot to do was to quarter turn the pan to insure even baking and will remember to do so sooner on the next test. 'Poking' the cornbread with a metal skewer (out of toothpics) confirmed some parts were cooking faster.

It seems that I was afraid of burning the cornbread on my first try based on the 1.25 hr. long baking time and undercooked results? I did wait about 25 minutes before taking the lid off to check it the first time, but ended up checking several times throughout the process. Next time I will try kicking the heat up a notch, add a few minutes for preheat, and keep my fingers crossed.  Smiley

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Re: Baking on a Stove
Reply #13 - Sep 28th, 2009 at 8:00pm
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Well I tried the oven again a couple days later, had the thermometer up to 275-300 and it worked fine.

Diane used the jello mold three times last week for cornbread, an apple cinnamon muffin mix and a bisquick muffin mix. This definitely changes everything.  Smiley It was worth bringing along.


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Re: Baking on a Stove
Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2009 at 6:40pm
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The dragonfly growls pretty good when cooking in the Outback-the heat diffuser actually glows red. Turn the heat up!
  
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Reply #15 - Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:59am
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Yea, the outback oven is the way to go. I like to use it with MSR's pocket rocket because of ease of use and excellent simmer capability. There's just something about flickin a bic and having a blowtorch or a steady tiny flame without priming, pumping etc. After I got the outback I found having two stoves is really nice as I could be baking that pan of lemon poppy seed muffins and dinner or afternoon coffee all at the same time.
  
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Re: Baking on a Stove
Reply #16 - Feb 4th, 2010 at 4:04am
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doesn't anyone pack in a real oven anymore?

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