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Re: Is There Such Thing As Being "Too Old" For Quetico
Reply #10 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 3:05pm
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Magic,

Sca-ish did the hammock route last August during our trip in and now swears by it........maybe he can teach and old dog, his old man, a new trick.

IC,

I have experimented with the half pillows and downsized pillows while car camping having my two old stand-bys along just in case. Many items on my list of gear have changed through the years but those two pillows remain as absolutes.


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Reply #11 - Nov 27th, 2009 at 5:12pm
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My late Dad always told me too work SMARTER not HARDER Wink
The older I got, the more I realized what that meant.
A strong mental attitude will do wonders especially as the body ages.
I need my 8 hrs sleep, always have even when a young guy.
I'm a side to side sleeper, but if I wasn't, I'm be in a hammock for sure.
I once saw a couple on Quetico lake that were easily in their late 70's-early 80's. He was humping the canoe and a food pack, she had a big Duluth pack. The said they had been tripping since they were in their teens.
They only went for shorter trips now, 4-5 days and back. Sometimes a long hard portage WAS the days trip Wink There's NO reason your Dad can't go until HE decides his body can't take the rigors. Let him set the pace and decide what he wants to carry. He might end up outworking you Wink
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 2:26am
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As most people on this board know, we have been tripping in the BWCA (with a few excursions into the Q in days gone by) for 38 years.  We are now 64 and have finished our 25th trip, which was completed seven months after Spartan1 had a kidney transplant.  He has been an insulin dependent diabetic for 34 years, and we took trips for fifteen years while he was following the kidney disease diet restrictions.   I have arthritis in my spine, knees, and shoulders and have had shoulder, thumb, and knee surgery in the past ten years.  None of this has kept us from canoe tripping as often as we could  get the chance.   Our trips have ranged from 4-22 days in length, with the average being 8.  We didn't start out doing any layover days; we do now.            

There are some reasons that we choose to go to the Boundary Waters now rather than the Q, and for us they make sense.  We now take somewhat easier trips, on smaller lakes with shorter portages.  I prefer the convenience of the pit toilet because of my back and knee situation--it is just more comfortable for me.  We enjoy vacationing in the United States and not having the hassle of the Canadian paperwork and customs, etc.  We don't like getting a tow, and prefer all-paddling trips.

But we are NOT too old at 64 for canoe tripping.  We are planning now for our June trip.  Fortunately, we both sleep well on pads.  In fact, in spite of my back problems,  I sleep better up there than I do at home. 

The secret, in my opinion, to canoe tripping into your older years is to gauge what you can do, try to prepare physically for what you are going to need to accomplish, keep a positive attitude about your abilities as well as your limitations, and plan a trip that is appropriate for your own personal situation.  It isn't a contest.  There isn't a prize for the ones who do the most strenuous trip, who make the most miles or portage the hardest portages. 

The canoe country is for those who are willing to make the effort.  But everyone doesn't have to be young and strong to experience it.  Adjust your expectations, look for a trip that will suit your needs, and go for it!
  
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Reply #13 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 9:21pm
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How old is too old? A number of years ago the director of my Ph. D. research asked me, "How many more of those trips are you going to make?"

I answered, "One too many."

I was 71 last spring and the guys with me, ranging from 5- to 20-years younger than I, agreed I was the toughest guy on the trip. And we did a rugged bushwhack.

So my answer is, "it depends." Fitness, character of trip, quality of gear -- all of which have been discussed above.

As a footnote, sleeping on a Therma-rest, with wadded-up jackets for a pillow, I sleep great on the ground.

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Reply #14 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 2:32am
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"Two old"?? When you're dead...?
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 29th, 2009 at 3:19am
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I have a magnet on my file cabinet. It reads: Fish Hard, You Can Rest When You Die.

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Reply #16 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 1:45pm
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My Dad was 80 on his last Quetico trip with me and my Brother - like you stl, we wanted to do another trip with Dad.  I don't remember the particulars, but it would have been something like 120 miles and 50 or more portages.  I still consider that to have been one of the toughest trips I have ever done, mostly due to conditions.  We didn't let my dad carry the 69# Grumman, but he did carry a pack each trip across the portages - we double trip.

In hindsight, I wish I'd started getting lighter gear back then, rather than a few years later.  Now, I've gone to ultra-light gear for everything, planning on continuing my trips to Quetico as long as I can - making the trips a lot easier, even now,  by carrying less weight.  If I'm not in the Q at 80 (I'm 58 now) it'll be because my knees give out, but I'm planning on being there.  Looking forward to retireing someday, so I can spend more time, maybe longer trips, and trying some other loacations.

  
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Reply #17 - Nov 30th, 2009 at 5:14pm
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Mad Mat:

Retirement is the best job I ever had. My wife, however, complains, "You never get a day off."

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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2009 at 8:02pm
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My grandfather made has last trip with us at 83. He was tougher than most well through his 70s. He lead us through a massive 6 hour bushwack when he was 79 and I was 19, barely made it through myself.

It was a pretty tough decision for him the year he decided to not go back.

  
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Reply #19 - Dec 9th, 2009 at 2:36pm
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On our last trip we had four 50-somethings (one of the guys may have been 60), a 40-something and an early 20-something who looked to be strong and in decent shape.

At end of the first (long travel) day, the college kid -- even though he'd been one of the ones who got to single portage -- ate a quick supper, took a handful of Ibuprofen and went to bed really early.

At end of the trip, he sighed and said something along the lines of "it's embarrassing to be half everybody's ages and barely be able to keep up. That first day kicked my *&^$#."

Sounds like most others on this forum have had similar experiences, or rather live them every day.

I hope to emulate you fellows. If I'm wandering the woods at 83 like rmb's grandfather, I will die a contented man.

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