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Feb 4th, 2010 at 12:32pm
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Hi guys, while I'm not new to the outdoors I am new to discussion forums. I have noticed a wealth of experience here and am interested in how many of you share my tripping style and what your results have been. More specifically do you hang your food or stash it? I suppose this has been bantered about at least 100 times but as a stasher I am interested in how many of you have been clipped and more importantly why and how many of the tree hoisting variety has been deprived. I was rudely handled one night on Sawbill lake ( fortunately it was our last night) when I got careless with a snickers bar. The lesson was well learned though and 8 years later I'm still batting 1000. Am I just getting lucky??
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 4th, 2010 at 1:49pm
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NO - NO - NO - absolutely not.  Please (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) this forum before you start a new one - especially on this topic. 

Heres 1 for starters.

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Heres two.

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There are hundreds more.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 7:42am
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I don't know about hundreds but oh but it's been so long! Wink

Nana locked this thread and linked to some old archived posts reserved for Inukshuks for when they want a blast from the past. It's weird. This is one of the few things where perception if not reality has changed over time - a little. Hiding blue barrels was a scary paradigm type shift for a frugal guy with a blue RubbereMaid tub. Still love the tub!

My wife and I slept 20, 30, 40 (I forget) feet from (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) for three days while enjoying each others company tremendously.

Unlike the various innie/outtie debates of old, there are (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) on bear-proffing topics that aren't as valid as "anyone been to x lake 5 star campsite" type posts. Everything gets archived somewhere sometime.

While I can appreciate Nana's aversion to this topic I'd also like to use it to make a point. Bears have bigger brains than ants and there aren't as many of them.

That said, I hear the bear population is declining with the moose population and human traffic where I like to go at least has decreased for other reasons plus knowledge has increased. My original concern when I started QJ was people didn't have enough information and for good or bad, my bear encounters have subsided considerably over the years.

That said, there are no secret methods so I made the links above and below available to everyone. I'm sure there are more that would resonate with someone new but what follows should give them food enough for thought.

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Reply #3 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 7:57pm
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For all the posts you see in the archives that go something like this, "I have always used method XYZ on my trips and never had a problem, therefore method XYZ is best"; keep in mind that for many of those people, their method of bear proofing could have been putting their food in a paper bag. They never had a problem because a bear in camp is a relative rare circumstance (more or less so depending on location) and for reasons totally unrelated to how they store their food, a bear never visited.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:42pm
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My bad if I have committed a breach of etiquette. I suspect my "dang the torpedos, full speed ahead" style may rub some the wrong way. Hopefully I can add something interesting and over time win those over.

Despite a life long love affair with wild places I have developed a certain healthy respect for bears and sharks. The shark nervousness came after I seen a 15ft hammerhead do "S" curves on the surface looking for the head of a 60 lb amberjack it had just taken from us. Pure power. The bear respect came after reading Stephen Herreaus book "Bear attacks, causes and and avoidance". Up to that point I had never really worried about them. Ignorance is bliss comes to mind. I have had 2 close encounters in the past 10 years including a very troubling night in Algonquin this past spring where we had one snuffling about the tent for quite some time. It was surreal. A hand axe in one hand and bear spray in the other and fits of nervousness that came out as laughter. Fortunately I am informed and there was no reason for our guest to intrude. The tracks told the story as well as a few dry bags batted about. I am aware that the Quetico does not have the troubling history that Algonquin does ( about every 10 years there is a fatality).
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 1:28am
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As a courtesy, we surfers on the Outer Banks of North Carolina used to take those pansy-ass hammerheads off the fishing lines of the dudes that hooked them off the Frisco pier.

Of course, that was in the "old days" when hammerheads were twice as big, and waves all came out of the classic movie, "Endless Summer".

Bears?  Mere child's play... comparatively speaking, of course.  

Sharks, bears... no bother at all.  Just use a blue barrel.  Don't bother hanging it.  Just put it outside the other guy's tent with a pile of pots on it & you'll do just fine, if you're a light sleeper like me.  Worst thing that can happen is that it might get slimed over by those green army worms, like what happened to me about 8 years ago.

It's those deadly canoe flies/ankle-biters that give me the heebie-jeebies!  Greatest nemesis known to to canoe-campers anywhere!  Thank your lucky stars they are only interested in ankles, not food packs!  Six-inch teeth in quarter-inch bodies... now THAT is terrifying!

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Reply #6 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 2:56am
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...and Pollyhumpers, Jimbo.  Don't forget the Pollyhumpers.  They eat Black Bears for appetizers.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 5:19am
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Snow_Dog wrote on Feb 6th, 2010 at 2:56am:
...and Pollyhumpers, Jimbo.  Don't forget the Pollyhumpers.  They eat Black Bears for appetizers.


You're dead straight, Snow_Dog!  Ain't NOBODY messes w/Pollyhumpers!!!

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Reply #8 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 6:57am
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mastertangler wrote on Feb 5th, 2010 at 8:42pm:
My bad if I have committed a breach of etiquette. I suspect my "dang the torpedos, full speed ahead" style may rub some the wrong way. Hopefully I can add something interesting and over time win those over.

In terms of n/etiquette here on QJ goes, I guess the main rules are.

#1 Don't post solely to sell yourself or your products.
#2 Don't use ALL CAPS.

Other side of the coin?

#3 Be kind and use short paragraphs even if your english teacher....
#4 This is the web where stubbed or stepped on toes recover. The little ones that don't, simply drop off upon realizing they were not really useful anyway.

A very apologetic, self described long time lurker told me where to find another link encouraging it's addition to this thread so:
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I'd have never even considered wasting time searching 'The Bookshelf' so I appreciate the heads up as it seems a fair, recent and condensed summery of 10 years worth of posts on the subject. Thanks! (I think)
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 6th, 2010 at 4:05pm
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That last thread that db linked to was one of the better ones, IMHO.  Good catch by the longtime lurker.
  
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