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Apr 10th, 2010 at 8:42pm
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Gore Bless The Internet.  There's always a forum for places I want to paddle.  Thanks in advance!

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10 day trip = 7 paddle days + 3 relax days

Last week of June, first week of July.

Done many trips (solo/tandem/group), though this will be my longest solo by a few days.  Tromped all over APP, some Temagami, Crown Land and Cottage Land for just shy of 20 years.

Paddling 15' kevlar prospector, I just put skid pads on it!

Double carry portages.  Want to keep max individual port length to <1500m (300 rods).  Want to keep max daily portaging <2500m (500 rods).

Daily distance on 7 paddle days 10 - 15 km.

Staring from Nym
Rest days are of course subject to weather.
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1 - Batchewaung Bay
2 - Pickerel Narrows/Pickerel Lake
3 - Rest
4 - Bisk/Beg/Fern
5 - Olifant
6 - Rest
7 - Rest
8 - Jesse
9 - Batchewaung
10 - out


Also an avid fisherman for whatever's in season and in the waters.  Happy to hear the local scuttlebutt.
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 2:21pm
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Looks fine, but if it were me, I'd only do one rest day on Oliphaunt.  The Oliphaunt to Jesse day could be tough (much tougher in my opinion, than fern to Oliphaunt), that would give you a rest day after your toughest travel day.  Assuming you are going via Halliday to Jesse?  I've only done that port once, from Halliday to Sturgeon, and it was nasty in high water - it likely will be dryer in summer, but its not likely to be easy.
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 3:07pm
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you are taking it easy on yourself....except for the 15 footer.

'I assume pics will follow (please)
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 5:53pm
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Thanks for the advice!  I don't have my map in front of me, but sounds like Oliphaunt - Rest - travel - rest is a better plan.

Yes, pics & TR would follow.  Those are the dues for being part of communities like this.

Yeah the 15 footer is the canoe I have since I can't have the canoes I want.  It has been slightly modified to make solo easier, bow seat moved closer to midship. 

When I plan solo trips I try to have ~30% rest days.  If I'm not windbound I can explore & scout, while having a line in the water of course.  I've done some strenuous solos and it's just not fun if I'm too tired to make a hot dinner or stay awake to see what's on the Caveman TV (usually re-runs but I love that show).

Likely drier than most if the early ice-out and low winter precip aren't countered by a ton of rain in the next several weeks.

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Reply #4 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:30am
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I rarely target lakers when solo so... Having explored most of your route with a similar ratio in mind, here's how I'd sketch it out on paper effort/reward wise. I don't usually plan this detailed so this is rather general.

1 - Pickeral Narrows
2 - Bud (8 day conservation start)
3 - explore/fish
4 - Olifant
5 - explore/fish
6 - Liz
7 - explore/fish
8 - Jesse
9 - explore/fish or Batch (conservation end)
10 - out

I don't know if that exactly fits your distance/day criteria but it seemed to me you started out slow. I'd save exploring Batch or the Narrows for the end or skipping it altogether unless you hit it just right and wanted to stay another day in the beginning or come back to a campsite you saw on the way in.

I normally get up in the morning and decide if conditions might favor traveling or exploring and then evaluate where I am mid trip. If I see an area I like, I look for a campsite that might be good for two nights.

Last trip I took a crappy campsite due to some fronts moving in. The next day I moved my camp less than a mile simply because the new campsite I found in the same area was better for the changing weather.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 4:49pm
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Thanks db.  Planning & actuallity are often different.  How each day progresses and personal mood make the decisions.

I like slow starts, sometimes called a Voyageur start.  If something has been left at the car it's not a killer to head back with minimal gear & get it.  Also after 2-3 days in the car, driving from Toronto, I can't guarantee I won't lilly-dip the first day.

Gonna have to map it out, but looks like what I basically want.  Thanks!
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 4:26pm
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Funny you mention Voyageur starts Preacher.  Our group references Voyageur breakfasts in a completely different light.  To us, a Voyageur breakfast means we wake up and take down camp quickly, paddle a few miles and then eat breakfast on the fly.  It usually consists of granola, breakfast bars, or similar.  Helps you get on the water before the wind kicks up.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 5:32pm
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Hey Preacher,

Saw you were coming from Toronto all the way up. I'm heading up from Kitchener in Late August. I'm probably doing a solo trip as well.
Just wondering where you were stopping over night on the way up?
I'm looking at Lake Superior PP and the Rabbit Blankets Campground.
Seemed like a good 10 hour drive to there, then into French lake over night before heading interior the third morning.
Appreciate your feedback as I have not been up to Quetico before and it was difficult to judge distances and timing, what with my canoe slowing me down on those (seemingly) winding roads through the Canadian shield!

Cheers!
  
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Reply #8 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 8:45pm
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Yep, I've heard that reference to Voyageur starts as well.  Hungry?  Here's a tin of pemmican, dip two fingers and pass it on.  Don't miss a stroke.

I haven't figured out the drive yet.  Have only over-planned 3 days (tripper math, 1 windbound day every 3rd/4th day) on the road each way.  1 day to Soo, 1 day to TBay (pick up persians for dinner), 1/2 day to permits/park/launch.
Not sure if I'll tent it or motel it.  I've been in some motels where I would have been better off in a tent in the parking lot.  Weighing the pros/cons of unpacking/repacking gear every day.  The potential to lose something, either left behind or rolled under the car seat.  The comparative cost, park sites aren't much cheaper than motels where you get all sorts of conveniences.

I'll be sure to include the drive there & back in the TR.  Where I stay, what it's like, time on the road.
  
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Re: Route Audit Request
Reply #9 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 3:32pm
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clipped from other thread
db wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 6:34am:
What spawned my question was the (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links). I couldn't understand why someone would plan that route that way. It worked fine but at the same time it didn't make sense to me. Was the reason Laker fishing or a desire to have people close by. Doesn't matter - just not how I would do it as I like to avoid people while hitting nice areas w/ the sort of options I like for layover days.

FYI, 90% is unfamiliarity with the area.  Certainly security & having other trippers nearby is a factor for me when solo in a new area.  Yeah being able to bug out within 2 days also factored in, but maybe I should go deeper and not have that option.

I'd be curious what folks might suggest for a 10 day trip with the following parameters.
Rest day for every 3rd day.  Doesn't have to happen on the 3rd day.  Just want to have the time buffer for being windbound & exploring.
10-15 km paddling on travel days.  Max 2 km portaging on travel days.
Everything else is bonus.  
I fish.  June/July pretty much opens everything for me.  While I'll spend a lot of time with a line in the water, it's usually something to do while I tool around exploring or wasting the day.
I like to see neat things like pictographs & big trees & big scenery - who doesn't?  I like to see waterfalls & rapids & mess about, but don't like to camp near the white noise that comes with white water.
I like to avoid motor boats.  
Big lakes are better planned with the wind at my back.


I just didn't want to show up sounding like a total noob with a Plan My Trip thread.  Every time I see those I  Roll Eyes expecting the parameters to be something like, "We have 3 days, no experience and want to have total solitude."
  
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