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Poll
Poll closed Question: See scenario in first post
*** This poll has now closed ***


Take the lessor campsite    
  7 (18.4%)
Take the better campsite    
  11 (28.9%)
Take your chances with the next lake    
  15 (39.5%)
None of the above - Something else    
  5 (13.2%)




Total votes: 38
« Created by: db on: Apr 19th, 2010 at 6:47am »

 25 Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection (Read 17722 times)
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #20 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 11:21am
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Joe, I'd do it
  
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Reply #21 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 2:24pm
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I don't ever begrudge anyone for taking any campsite regardless of whether or not the site is appropriately sized for their group.  They got there first.  That's all there is to it. 

I try not to camp near others, but if the best available site on the lake I choose to stay at is near another occupied site, so be it.  I pick my nightly destination lakes for a good reason so there's little chance I will move on unless there's simply no choice.

Whether solo or group, I don't travel with noisy people so I don't worry about me or my group disrupting the other at all with noise issues. 

Visually, it is what it is.  My mug is ugly and they'll just have to deal with it as best they can.  When they picked their site close to another campsite, they had to know that it was possible for the other site to get selected.  If having other campers within view offends them, then they did a poor job of campsite selection and that's their problem, not mine.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #22 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 2:26pm
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I'd personnaly choose to move on. (Although I couldn't say that may my choice would be the group consensus) As someone who tends to be the larger group. (The smallest group has been 6) I find that the group will gladly travel how far we need to go that day with no complaints. Once they hear that this lake is the one we intend to camp one, there is a great deal of grumbling if we are forced to push on.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #23 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 5:40pm
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db: If the situation were reversed and you were leading the big group, do you think anyone in your group might be be miffed that the solo took the better site? Would there be a discussion about it in your group?


I honestly don't think that there would even be a discussion in our group, particularly if we didn't know anything about the sites in question. Unless we'd been there before, we wouldn't really know how good the site would be, so once seeing it occupied, we'd just move on and see what lies ahead. First come, first served.

Although, I did vote on the poll to move on.

I have talked to other people/groups on portages to get a feel for their plans, if it seems like there may be site "competetion", particularly in the BWCAW where choices are limited. Not to set up a competition, but just to at least get a feel for what we may be up against. For example, we were on the Frost River last June on a very rainy, windy chilly day. There was a tandem ahead of our group of 6, and we asked them early on if they planned on taking the Bologna Lake site, or if they were going farther. They said they were going on, so we at least knew Bologna was an option.
  
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Reply #24 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 5:48pm
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" I certainly would never set anchor and fish in front of anyone else's campsite. I at least hope I'm not in the minority with that. " -DB

I think you may be, at least in the B-dub, where the campsites in some places are on top of each other.  Can't recall how many times I've had canoes just drift past the shoreline in front of my camp while I'm having dinner or just relaxing for the evening. Not even an "oops, we're sorry, we'll fish the other shoreline".  Makes you want to fire a shot across their bow.
  
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Reply #25 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 9:39pm
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I've never considered this to be a moral dilemma, and I still don't. All sites are first-come, first served. The other group(s) should also know that and be prepared for contingencies. If it was storming and I saw a group looking for a site, I would invite them in, and share the tarp & coffee, & a meal if we were preparing one anyway. Then, when the weather clears, I would bid them farewell, as they find their own site.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #26 - Apr 21st, 2010 at 10:18pm
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pigsmoke wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 5:48pm:
Can't recall how many times I've had canoes just drift past the shoreline in front of my camp while I'm having dinner or just relaxing for the evening. Not even an "oops, we're sorry, we'll fish the other shoreline".  Makes you want to fire a shot across their bow.



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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #27 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 3:10am
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I'm with Wally on that one.
  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #28 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 3:47am
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Hey DB, I want to know what spurred the query, the scenario?

If I was solo and solitude was the gig, I would push on. If it was a lake that I wanted to fish I would stay... If I was in good spirits and the struck me as good souls or had kiddies I would leave the "good site" to them; maybe even make a chocolate cake for them or give a fish. If they were "_________" I would  enjoy the breezy point and proceed to sprawl, and let them talk crap and give me the eye ball and smile back. If the weather was crap or they were in a pickle I'd share, with an open invitation, and cook up a storm; leave the next morning even if it was a lake that I wanted to fish.

The "manners" thing is an interesting idea; a way. I always thought that it was a drag to have to stop so dang early to snag that site that has been on the list for many years; but that is the way of policy and use. PMA's here I come.

  
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Re: Solo (or single canoe) campsite selection
Reply #29 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 6:34am
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marlin55388 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 3:47am:
Hey DB, I want to know what spurred the query, the scenario?

What spawned my question was the (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links). I couldn't understand why someone would plan that route that way. It worked fine but at the same time it didn't make sense to me. Was the reason Laker fishing or a desire to have people close by. Doesn't matter - just not how I would do it as I like to avoid people while hitting nice areas w/ the sort of options I like for layover days.

I don't care who thinks what and some people's answers don't surprise me. Wink  I was just curious if there was some unspoken social norm I missed somewhere along the line. Call it my feeble effort to determine what normal might be. And yes this sample is obviously skewed but at least it'll be an informed and thoughtful point of skew. Hence the ability to re-vote.
  
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