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Reply #30 - Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:11pm
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S_T I had a co-worker that smoked, knew I was always active and stayed in shape. I was just doing stuff I enjoyed. He experienced a mild heart attack. But it was bad enough to get him to stop smoking and start walking. He dropped some weight and felt great. Funny thing was he was MAD at me for not telling him how much better he would feel if he took care of his health. I had to laugh. You know people had been telling him that his whole life, he just didn't want to hear it.

IMO There's nobody more on a fitness soapbox than an ex-smoker.
At least that was true of this guy. Probably one of the hardest things to kick. Heck I have trouble giving up a bad girl friend. Maybe cigarettes are the 2nd hardest thing to quit.  Grin
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:39pm
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IMO There's nobody more on a fitness soapbox than an ex-smoker.
At least that was true of this guy. Probably one of the hardest things to kick. Heck I have trouble giving up a bad girl friend. Maybe cigarettes are the 2nd hardest thing to quit.  Grin


I heard an interview once with Frank Sinatra (interesting guy) which sums up kicking the smoking habit nicely. The interviewer asked him if he had ever tried to kick the habit. His response........ "stopping smoking is easy, I've done it a least 1000 times".
  
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Reply #32 - Apr 28th, 2010 at 10:58pm
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S_T I had a co-worker that smoked, knew I was always active and stayed in shape. I was just doing stuff I enjoyed. He experienced a mild heart attack. But it was bad enough to get him to stop smoking and start walking. He dropped some weight and felt great. Funny thing was he was MAD at me for not telling him how much better he would feel if he took care of his health. I had to laugh. You know people had been telling him that his whole life, he just didn't want to hear it.

IMO There's nobody more on a fitness soapbox than an ex-smoker.
At least that was true of this guy. Probably one of the hardest things to kick. Heck I have trouble giving up a bad girl friend. Maybe cigarettes are the 2nd hardest thing to quit.  Grin


Michigan, my home state has always been in the top ten WORST health states in the nation. Until the manufacturing base collapsed , our state had a good per capita income per worker. Money in your pocket and a two income household meant for many people dining out more than most and almost unlimited trips to the fast food outlets.

Now, many of my friends who laughed at me for my exercising/eating habits, have lost their health coverage or seen it severely cut back, with limited doctor visits and higher co-pays.

Now many of them are exercising and being proactive because its a way too avoid higher health care costs. I just smile. While I applaud anyone who makes a healthy lifestyle change, I get a kick out of some of my friends who now want to tell ME about a healthy lifestyle Grin

It's much easier to get in shape the younger you are, and waaay easier to stay in shape once your there, than start over, especially the older you get.  Your body is a wonderful piece of equipment. Smokers who haven't developed emphysema or other diseases will find that after 6 months or so, the lungs will clear themselves out and be the way they were before you started smoking.
 Loss of lung function doesn't happen overnight. It takes years. Just like getting out of shape. Soon you adapt to your diminished capacities. IF you could take a smoker or out of shape person, snap your fingers and give them 24 hours of what they had before, they would never go back to what they are now. Sadly most people take better care of their car than they do themselves Sad  

I think that many who don't believe in exercise/healthy lifestyle and enjoy their trips now, would be amazed how much better they would be IF they were experienced from a healthy perspective.

But hey, ultimately everyone has to make the decision on their own.
Just remember YOUR health effects others not just yourself Wink
  
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Reply #33 - Apr 29th, 2010 at 4:27am
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I agree with what was said earlier, about how keeping in shape isn't about living longer, it's about living better. You don't have to be an endorphin junkie to appreciate being able to DO whatever you want, whenever you want. Pickup game of hockey? Backyard football? Impromptu wrestling match to determine who gets shotgun?

Done. No problem.

Of course, having the stamina to make portages and paddle all day without forcing a layover the next day is a plus, too.

The hard part for a lot of people is finding the time to make fitness a part of their daily life. The answer for me came via bicycle - I'd ride to work or school every now and then, then I'd ride more, then I'd ride for fun, and the next thing I knew, I was logging 2,000+ miles each year, and buying studded tires so I could ride through the winter while my poor pickup just sat in the driveway. I even rigged up a home-built canoe trailer, so I could haul my canoe to the fishing spots without having to drive. I saved a lot of money on fuel costs, and was able to get back into decent shape, and the only thing I had to do was add a little time to my commutes.

Now, my work commute is often in excess of 700 miles, so the bike has become far less practical; and when I'm at work, I can't leave the site to go riding whenever I want. It's like jail, being cooped up in a trailer/lab/office for 30-40 days at a time. So I had to start something different.

I've been amazed at the kind of full-body workout you can get with just a set of dumbbells. I train with high reps + motion for endurance and stamina, as opposed to trying to "bulk up." Using these cheap Wallyworld dumbbells I can work almost every muscle in my body, including the core. Paired with pushups, various lower back / abdominal sets, and a cheap doorway pull-up bar, I can get a great workout without having to make a special trip to a gym, which isn't an option out here anyways. A few hours every day, or every other day depending on laziness, and I'm able to stay in shape while I work without messing up my schedule.

But if you're thinking about getting in shape, my first advice would be to buy a bike. Ride for fun, ride to work, ride to the store. It's a lot easier on the knees than running, and you can make your ride as demanding or as easy as you want. Stop in your local bike shop and ask questions, ride a few different types of bikes, find what you like, and they'll be more than happy to set you up with a bike that will last you many years.

If you want to start a weight regimen, my advice would be to start small. Do pushups and situps at home, just a few here and there, and let your muscles get used to daily demands. Then just keep it up, and start adding reps/sets when you feel ready. Work your way up to using weights - the beauty of dumbbells is you can add or remove weight as you go along.

But the most important thing is: don't stop. You don't have to work out every day, but don't let yourself go without it for too long, or you will find yourself starting over and getting discouraged. The post-workout soreness will go away faster and faster as time goes on, and you'll find yourself having more energy and a better attitude in your daily life.

Just my $0.02
  
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Reply #34 - Apr 29th, 2010 at 9:14am
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Akula, worth lots more than .02$

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Reply #35 - Apr 29th, 2010 at 2:48pm
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  Once again Akula proves himself wise beyond his years Wink
  
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Reply #36 - Apr 29th, 2010 at 3:48pm
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This is what I've been doing to prepare for my early June trip. I started started in January with the goal to lose 25 LB by June. I'm down 16 so far. I started with walking a few miles 2 or 3 times a week. As the weather improved here in MI I walked more distance and more often. I threw in the occasional dumbell workout (30 minutes or so). Now I am running, up to 4 miles, 3 times a week and walking 6 miles when I don't run. More frequent dumbell works too. I'm planning to kayak on Saturday, then try for a 5 mile run.  I paddle when I can, only a total of about 10 hrs so far this year. Recently I've been carrying my canoe a few times a week on a trail through the woods on my property for about 1/2 mile. Tonight it is mountain biking.

If my work out gets too routine or regimented I get bored. I like to mix it up as much as possible. I've never been a big fan of keep track of times, weight, reps. etc.

Also I've been eating lots of fruit and veggies and drinking less beer  Sad ....but I have enjoyed a few sips of Jameson.
  
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Reply #37 - Apr 29th, 2010 at 4:53pm
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jimmar wrote on Apr 29th, 2010 at 3:48pm:
I started with walking a few miles 2 or 3 times a week. As the weather improved here in MI I walked more distance and more often.
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Recently I've been carrying my canoe a few times a week on a trail through the woods on my property for about 1/2 mile. Tonight it is mountain biking.

I typically walk 5 1/2 to 6 miles (sometimes longer) 3-4 times per week, year round.  As often as possible, I pick mountain biking trails in the area because they typically have more elevation changes and are rougher (need more "foot work") than other trails in my area.  Starting about 3 months out, I start carrying a day pack.  Each week I add more weight, but try to stay at the same time as my "non-weighted" time.  (BTW:  Re-using plastic water bottles by refilling them with tap water is an easy way to add weight to your pack in at virtually no cost.  By the time you get to 6-8 of them, you may need to change to something else, but its an easy way to "ramp-up".  I used to add rocks, but you'll occasionally get one with an uncomfortable point stabbing you in the back ... and you can't drink rocks if needed.  Of course, I've thrown in other things too, e.g., ankle weights, etc.).

Another thing I've done with my mountain bike is to "de-tune" it a few months before a trip (take out a little air, add some "drag" to your brake, etc.) Small changes in the efficiency of your ride can make a significant difference in your workout over a 15-20 mile stretch

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Reply #38 - Apr 30th, 2010 at 1:28am
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DD

Has a very good point about balance/foot work and weight. Smiley
  
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Reply #39 - Apr 30th, 2010 at 5:48pm
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1 -- bike -- 25-30 miles at a time, looking for hills. the years I've been able to do that a few times a week was the easiest Quetico trip ever.

2 -- walk -- lots of it. Closer to trip I throw 30 to 50 lbs. in pack. If walking along roads, I step up and down on curbs, small walls and obstacles. And I try to walk in uneven grass to strengthen ankles.

3 -- paddle -- this is going to sound really stupid, but for me it works. I have an in-ground pool. In the months leading up to the fall trip, I stand in the shallow end with a plastic paddle (no, not my good Bending Branches), and I paddle. Hard. Fast. Deep. Until ... I ... can't ... lift ... my ... arms.

Then, thoroughly whipped, I do some "resistance" type stuff (submerge paddle completely, horizontal to ground, and with two-handed grip try to "swing" it through water like a baseball bat).

Again, it looks stupid. But it kicks my asskey, so I don't give a hairy rat's butt what the neighbors think. Besides, I usually paddle in the wee hours of the night, when it's a bit chilly, so on top of solitude I get to mentally prepare myself for paddling while cold.

Oh, and I've been known to put my canoe on my shoulders (the heavy aluminum one, not the Wenonah) and step up on bench and top of picnic table and down again, over and over. Helps quads and back.

Looks stupid. My kids laugh. Who cares.

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