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Re: Leftovers
Reply #10 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 11:33am
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I'm in the "no leftovers" school as well. A little upset stomach (or worse) is not worth the trouble.

In the last few years I've dried my own food and I've gotten better at judging the portions required to minimize leftovers. Spartan 2 is on the right track in judging the amount required and how to store -- though I prepare instructions and put them inside the ziplock bags rather than write on the outside.

  
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Reply #11 - Jul 29th, 2010 at 3:59pm
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I cut the directions off the box, if there is one. Makes for a dry/handy fire-starter, sooner or later.
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 7:56pm
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We travel late in the year so don't worry about spoilage unless we get a super heat wave.  We have left-over food like pasta pesto stored in a zip lock bag if anyone wants to supplement a meal.  

One note of caution that I heard is that the best way to attract a bear is to burn food.  If its still allowed, I understand bear hunters bait bear that way.  I heard a story from turn of the century Duluth where a ship carrying sugar burned in the harbor and the next day there were ~50 bears in town.

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Reply #13 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 12:44pm
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"One note of caution that I heard is that the best way to attract a bear is to burn food."

well, maybe, if you load your canoe with sugar and burn it.  Doesn't seem like there would be much difference between burning the leftovers and cooking the same food originally  (mmmmn bacon).  In a hot fire, the leftovers would probably burn up pretty quickly - and compared to what, burying the leftovers - that would also likely attract bears if it wasn't buried good and deep.  I odn't normally have leftovers - if anything, it would be fish remnants from fish that was cooked over the fire - don't see that burning thr remains would make that big a difference.
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 5:50pm
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The difference is the residue.  With cooking you then cleanup.  You should try leaving fish or bacon residue in the fire overnight and see what you attract.

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Re: Leftovers
Reply #15 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 6:09pm
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An interesting debate (as are most debates where each side thinks they are right).

I am very much inclined to burn any trash and/or leftovers in a nice hot fire. The thought never occurred to me that I might be wrong. (It's still not occurring to me  Grin ). But I might be! I mean, who really knows.

The thing I do know is that a bears nose is a true marvel. Burn your leftovers and that nose will likely tell him it's not food any longer. Try and bury it.....well, that's REALLY asking for trouble. You can carry it with you, chuck it in the lake, or just leave it after you break camp.

The last three options are not really options at all, are they? That pretty much leaves burning. UNLESS, of course, there is a fire ban.......now things get interesting don't they? Did you think ahead? 

  
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Reply #16 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 6:33pm
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Fire bans & regulations aside, I seriously doubt bears are attracted to ashes.  Ashes are all that's left when I burn food.  Sometimes it's really neat looking.  A whole fish skelleton burned through, but intact.  One touch with the poker and poof, it's dust.

I'm also kinda nutty about peoples' fear of bears.  Black bears at least.  Grizzlies & Polars are a different matter & I've never had to worry about them.  Black bears are wussies and you're more likely to be hit by lightning & win the lottery on the same day than be worried by a black bear.  There are more reasonable fears to have about being out there, including squirrels chewing holes in your food bag.

20 years tripping.  1 wild bear sighting.
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 7:31pm
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Yea well, have one sniffing through the tent inches from your arm and you might sing a different story when the hair on the back of your neck actually goes up. That happened to me just this spring in Algonquin. If we would of had an empty snickers wrapper in the tent things may have turned out different.

20 years backpacking/tripping.....my black bear encounters
1) two close encounters with blacks in Glacier. One I had to chase out of the food eating area and one just off the trail. I made a mistake with the one on the trail by yelling at it. I put two unseen cubs up a tree. Yes the blacks are less protective but still a mistake
2) 3 separate sighting in Quetico
3) had food swiped and had bear approach tent in BWCA
4) laid siege for a surprisingly long time in Algonquin this past spring. Tracks around our tent, dry bags batted around and the freaky sniffing by my arm
5) bear swam in front of my canoe (excellent!) on my French river trip this fall

It is not silly or foolish to have respect of things that can deprive you of your life or at the very least make life complicated as in the case of a bear taking your supplies. I am equally "fearful" of camping under a dead tree. Rather unlikely it's going to fall on me right? I mean I would have a better chance of hitting the lotto........

  
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Re: Leftovers
Reply #18 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 7:50pm
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If this guy was solo he would of had a rough go of it.
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Reply #19 - Sep 27th, 2010 at 8:47pm
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Wow!  I often wonder what I'm doing wrong/right to have such a dirth of bear sightings.

Respect is one thing.  Worries need to be metered against likelihood, that's all I meant.

I would add that whatever it (legally) takes for one to feel secure out there is totally ok for them.  If you need a rabbit's foot, then by all means carry a rabbit's foot.

I've directly known as many people who have had that tree fall on them as who have been hurt by a bear, 1 each.


Back to leftovers.  Often it's an eyes bigger than stomach issue.  Solo I eat A LOT less than if I'm with others.  Burn 'em, zip-lock 'em, stick 'em in a Fair Share Mug, pack 'em out, eat 'em later.  If you get caught more than twice, take a good look at your portion control & knock it down 1/3.  It's easy to go a little hungry, or munch a piece of toast.
  
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