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Reply #10 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 3:26pm
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....learn to wash it, dry it, and rewipe!
  
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Reply #11 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 4:08pm
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I've got used to just "frying" the fillet


I know some people enjoy the deep fried/breaded style with fish, but I contend the breading can either enhance this method or ruin it.

A teaspoon/tablespoon of oil heated till shimmering will easily pan Sear as many fillets as will fit in the pan without touching each other. A minute or two depending on thickness, shake pan to release fillet, flip and do the same too other side. I pull pan from heat, and if fillet doesn't flake easily with fork, I cover and let sit for 30 seconds or so.

I also like to add dry spices to oil, the heat releases the oil in the spice, making a little spice go a long way.

Filtering/re-using oil seems like a hassle, but to each his own.
Just be sure containers are leak proof/ double sealed and avoid spilling fish flavored oil onto pack/gear Wink  Yogi doesn't need any encouragement Grin
  
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Reply #12 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 4:39pm
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I suppose your right. Straining oil does seem like a hassle. Plus, as you've pointed out there is a great potential to make a mess and start to contaminate your whole kit.

When I fry fish I do it hot and fast where the oil comes up 1/2 way (perhaps slightly less) on the filet. If you catch a decent sized fish ( we fished deep on our last Quetico trip and fully 80% of our walleyes were right at 5lbs) then the filets tend to be thicker and thus more oil.

By adding 25% fresh to the old I could probably get another batch out and then toss it. I'm more uncertain now then when I started. I'll put my kit together and see how it plays out and then start figuring what quantity to bring.

One of these days I would like to try some of your fish and learn some of your other tricks.
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 10:19pm
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One of these days I would like to try some of your fish and learn some of your other tricks.

MT,
My next trick will be getting time off for a trip Sad
So far it's not looking good.
Happy to be working, sick to my soul about 0 vacation time Cry
  
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Reply #14 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 10:31am
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Shocked. MT, I hope you were not eating those 5 lb waldos.
  
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Reply #15 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 1:26pm
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Geez, now I'm in trouble Sad. I let most of them go but we did eat 2 or 3 of them. When you wait all year to have fish fry's with your buddies and that's all your catching..........

Your point is well taken though. It takes a long time for a fish to get big in the North country. I caught one eye at 6.5 which I let go but did manage a picture. I also caught 2 twin 8lb lakers "back to back" which I released immediately (as I know they are fragile) without taking time to get a picture. I landed them with the boga grip (no net to knock their slime off) took a quick look at the weight and then made sure they took off under their own power.

I hadn't really given it as much thought as I should. Thanks.

  
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Reply #16 - Sep 25th, 2010 at 11:01pm
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masterangler...don't matter how long it took 'em to grow....they be your fish and you eat any of 'em you desire.  They were the stat'es fish when in the water, but when they went on your stringer, then they became your personal property.

Wanna be politicaly correct...go ahead...they be yours
Wanna eat 'em, go ahead, they be yours
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 1:45am
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Sorry to derail thread.

...And now back to solving MT's personal angst regarding multiple uses of cooking oil...

I don't reuse oil, and only use it in small amounts.
  
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Reply #18 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 9:44am
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My pre-occupation with re-using oil (and solar re-chargeable batteries as well) has to do with the length of time I am planning to be out. Lord willing (and the creek don't rise) I am intending a trip between 20 and 30 days.

My goal is to come in light enough to not have to triple portage. Since fish will factor into that goal getting maximum benefit from cooking oil would be helpful.

One thing I like about the adkins fish meal that I have suggested previously is it's a light coating that seems to stay on the fish rather well. That leaves a fairly clean pan of oil left over with little residue. (very few burnt chunks etc.)

Just exploring every angle. I should probably take OS tack and just use less than I usually do. I suspect I will be still torn though when I dispose of the remnants realizing it could still be of some use.
  
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Reply #19 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 1:10pm
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Another vote here for just frying your fish in less oil. 

When I get done frying up my fish...whether it be for 1 person, 2 people, or 8 people...there's rarely more than a tablespoon or two of oil left in my pan and that's full of seasoning that I may or may not want next time I cook fish.

If you are having trouble with the concept of cooking fish adequately with very little oil it may be helpful to realize the physics behind cooking with oil and the effect volume of oil has on results.

Oil has 2 main functions.  It's a heat equalizer and a way to "store" heat. 

It functions as a heat equalizer by making the temperature of your pan more uniform regardless of where or how concentrated your heat source is.  The better your pan is at distributing heat on it's own, the less oil you will need.  A quality frying pan usually takes up the same amount of room in your pack, but it does weigh more.  You want to find the sweet spot on the spectrum of weight where you aren't lugging several pounds of cast iron but neither are you carrying an ultralight pan that gets hot only where the stove flame directly contacts it.  If you have a reasonably decent pan, just a thin layer of oil is needed to evenly cook the bottom side of any fillet, no matter how thick.  Fill your pan with fillets and the oil travels higher up the side of each of them.  No need to submerge or even get halfway up the fillet.  The fillet cooks from the bottom far more and far faster than it does from the sides.

Oil also functions as storage for heat.  Generally on a canoe trip, this is a function of oil that is rather unneccesary.  The reason why restaurants use deep fryers that hold a ton of oil is that they need to be able to cook large volumes of (often frozen) food as quickly as possible.  A large pot of oil stores enough heat so that when a basket of frozen goodies goes in it, the temperature doesn't dive down below the point where the food will cook properly.  It also mitigates the fact that the pot that the oil is contained in is a poor distributor of heat.  Granted, if you are feeding an army on a canoe trip (6-8 people) there is some advantage to using a high-volume frypan with a lot of oil...your fillets will cook faster.  But for 1-4 people, you can generally cook fast enough that the tradeoff of having less weight (smaller, lighter pan and less oil) is worth the minimal extra cooking time.

All that said, if you are cooking battered fish, you'll need more oil.  In this case, you have to get the oil level at least 2/3 of the way up the thickest fillets or you will have doughy batter on the edges.  With breaded fish, you have to hit the halfway mark on each fillet.  With seasoned, naked fillets as long as the bottom of the fillet is in contact with the oil, you're good.  For my money, batters and breadings are far inferior ways to flavor your fish.  Spices on naked fillets are much simpler and less heavy/bulky to lug around.
  
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