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Re: fishing lake trout in BWCA
Reply #10 - Oct 13th, 2010 at 4:28pm
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a keel sinker or a lindy bottom bouncer type sinker that hangs below your line will eliminate the twist. put a swivel at the lure and where you attach the leader to the sinker. this lets just your leader line spin all it wants and the sinker keeps your main line twistless.

keel sinkers run smooth through the water however they are so close to the main line that they can end up twisting when running a spinner with a big blade. bottom bouncers have the drop wire with the weight farther off of the mainline which keeps the sinker from spinning with the line.

colorado blades are made for a slow retrieve/troll and can really twist up your line if you go too fast. same with little cleo type spoons with a distinct spoon shape. troll with a willow blade cuz it runs cleaner and faster through the water because it resists less. this will also reduce your line twist. as for spoons, mepps syclops and red-eye lures spoons are longer and cut more cleanly through what water at higher speeds. the wider spoons with the little cleo shape displace more water and have a wider action. at higher speeds their action actually gets cut down and they just spin and twist up your stuff.

in summary: to reduce line twist, run a sinker with a decent drop distance from your main line + barrel swivels, run willow blades on spinners, run long slender spoons

things that cause line twist: sinkers that run too close to the mainline, large spinner blades(specifically colorado blades), wide/deep spoons, but the  one thing that causes most line twist = going too fast
  
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Re: fishing lake trout in BWCA
Reply #11 - Oct 13th, 2010 at 9:51pm
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Good stuff OS and Jaximus Cool
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 14th, 2010 at 5:25am
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I have tried the three way with a dropper to the weight, Spro hardware, and keel style sinkers...the source of the line twist IMHO opinion is derived from the spinning reel itself in my case. That's  what induced the acquisition of the smallest, lightest, functional, and affordable (key) line counter; it also allowed for weight and line out recipes to get to specific depths. Diving planes are also a possibility as is traditional baitcasting reel; it just that I am breaking those planes in the pack.

Anyone making bismuth keel weight yet?

If I would would yah be interested?
  
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Reply #13 - Oct 14th, 2010 at 5:32am
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What about Suttons?

Jaximus...I have a notion about fishing a rock hopper and floating jighead combo on the bottom for a bit now....ever done that, anyone?

I remember the size of the leech I found in the last Laker's gut. Huh
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 14th, 2010 at 1:18pm
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the only time i have ever used a rock hopper is when trolling. the retrieve speed to keep it upright and working properly is too high for just cast & retrieve in my taste. plus i feel you need a fairly decent sized lure running behind the rig to keep the mainline tight so the wire stays vertical.

if you are talking about trolling a rock hopper with a floating jighead thats a different story but one with a similar ending. when trolling, the floating jighead gets pulled too fast and basically runs straight behind the rock hopper. basically you would be better off with a regular hook because it was twist less. floating jigheads generally have a pretty awkward eyelit-to-hook shank angle that doesnt bode well to cast and retrieve fishing. its basically just a cast and let sit presentation like a slip bobber.
  
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Reply #15 - Oct 15th, 2010 at 4:18am
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I have great times with the walleye drag and the set up I am speaking of...nice up and down on the retrieve...
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 4:35am
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Haven't fished lakers in BWCA, but have done it extensively in the Q.  Go early in the season while the water is still cold.  Troll body baits (Rapalas, Bombers, etc.) around the shorelines.  My 9 year old caught many of them this past spring.  He used the same lure all week- a medium-sized fire tiger Rapala Husky jerk.  He still has the lure, even though it is all torn up with teeth marks.  We even caught a few lakers casting lures from shore.

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Reply #17 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 5:55am
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that fire tiger rap in the spring is a deadly wicked tool.  Several years I cleaned out the local sports store of all #7, 9, and 11's....floating.  Still have a mess of 'em.  But every spring trip we loose many to the muskies.  Can't put on a leader if you want some trout.
  
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Reply #18 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 2:16pm
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Can't put on a leader if you want some trout.


Have you tried those ultra-flexible Titanium leaders?
I use them when I'm traveling and have my heavy rod/line combo out.
I've caught Lakers with Double Loon spinner rig and Minnow type stick baits using them.
  
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Reply #19 - Oct 27th, 2010 at 2:42pm
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If the fishing hot and heavy the titanium is the way to go. You can catch repeated toothy fish without them bending or kinking.

One word of caution though, I have had the Bass Pro brands literally fall apart when I went to just snug the knot down. I would of been hopping mad to have spent top $$ on leader and lure and then had it fail on a whopper. I returned them pronto.

I've been using 130lb floro carbon leaders with good results so far.
  
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