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Poll Question: How do you plan and pack for your camping meals?



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Reply #50 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 2:39am
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Back in the 70's I was taking groups out from a camp all summer long for several years. The first thing was I bought a good supply of dehydrated food from Siedel... I think thats how you spell it. All went pretty good the first year and I had enough for the second year to. We had beef stew one night and found (we guessed it was the onions) that you couldn't use them after a year. We all had such bad gas and there was a terrible storm so we had to close up the tent too. Whew! I got into store bought foods real soon after that.
  
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Reply #51 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 2:25pm
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People seem so worried about getting gas on a trip. I thought that was one of the reason why so many are going more solo. Let em fly.
  
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Reply #52 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 3:16pm
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grizzlylarso wrote on Mar 10th, 2011 at 2:25pm:
People seem so worried about getting gas on a trip. I thought that was one of the reason why so many are going more solo. Let em fly.


I'm not sure I'm with you on that one Griz Wink. A buddy of mine is from Malta and his mom was an awesome cook. Anyway he always went next door where his mother lived to eat.

We would go fishing and while we were driving along he would start to snicker. And I would say...."what, what's so funny"? Shortly thereafter it would hit you. I considered it a driving hazard as your eyes would water and your gag reflex would kick in. Of course he would laugh all the harder! Not sure what they put in that Maltese food Wink.

We're still pals all these years later and his "practical joke" capability is certainly less intense. That said, we have separate tents Grin.


  
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Reply #53 - Mar 10th, 2011 at 11:30pm
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grizzlylarso wrote on Mar 10th, 2011 at 2:25pm:
People seem so worried about getting gas on a trip. I thought that was one of the reason why so many are going more solo. Let em fly.


Well, there is gas.... Then there is like MT said... eye watering gas. It was bad that night with three in a "four"man tent. Never had the gas problem again... on a trip.
  
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Reply #54 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 9:19pm
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I create most of my dinner meals through out the year. I dehydrate everything and I eat as well as I do at home. Breakfasts are usually oat meal or cream of wheat and lunches tuna pitas or bear creek soups.
  
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Reply #55 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 4:50am
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Puckster wrote on Mar 9th, 2011 at 3:37am:
Question for Joe-Schmeau and Snow_Dog:
So, is freeze dried really bad for you, from a nutrition point of view?  


Snow_Dog wrote on Mar 9th, 2011 at 4:07am:
I'll pass this one to Joe.


Sorry for not responding earlier - been away from the boards for a few weeks.

I have little to add here. I never buy fd foods per se, just because I usually can put together off-the-shelf supermarket stuff that tastes better (usually after adding a bunch of spices). Usually a lot of it is fd stuff that doesn't say fd on the package (European dried soups etc).

Keeping an eye on salt content makes a lot of sense, especially if you're on a salt-restricted diet, and dehydrating your own sounds like a logical way to keep control.

Unless you're going out of your way to avoid salt, I'd expect that all of us get more than enough salt in our regular menu planning, whether or not we actively avoid fd. The amount of salt you lose in sweat isn't that much, and you really shouldn't need to add more to compensate. (The reason that sports drinks (Gatorade etc) contain a bit of salt is to help with the speed of rehydration (water transport through intestinal walls), not to replace salt lost in perspiration.)

If you have trouble digesting some fd foods, or if they give you gas, then avoid them. FD beans are still beans.

But if you don't mind the taste or salt of fd, and don't suffer any serious aftereffects, then I see no reason to avoid them.


  
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Reply #56 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 12:10am
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I get the basics from the grocery store and then make up my meals.
Breakfast:  Instant Oatmeal, I like two packs, and ussually by freeze dried Strawberries to add to them.  I mix 1 pkt plain with 1 pkt Brown Sugar and Cinniman, and add Strawberries. (This is on paddlin/moving days)
Otherwise I take pre-cooked bacon, and Hashbrowns, and I use Adventure Eggs (dried scrambled eggs)  I eat this meal on my layover days...when I take time to "cook breakfast".  I also go with hot cocoa. (not a coffee drinker)
Lunch is ussually beef sticks, beef jerky, a sugar snack like fruit snacks, peanut butter and soft shell, granola bar.  Ordered some PRO BARS and going with those, although expensive they are 400 calories.  for drinks I use gatorade pkts ussually or something similar.
Supper:
I dehydrate hamburger and chicken (white meat) from a can.  I use this as my protein source.  I make goolash from deydrated burger, noodles, dehydrated spagetti sauce (leather)  It is delicious and light weight ( I repack parmesian in little zip locks from HOBBY LOBBY)  I use those little zip locks for a lot of things come in handy.
I use Knorr's side dishies ussually Teriyaki Chicken either Rice or noodles (Asian Sides from Knorr's)  I also dehydrate broccoli and chicken to add to these.  I ussually use 1/2 package of the Asian Side per meal.  I also add dehydrated red and green peppers to the mix.
I also like pizza on my layover days.  So I use pepperoni as it keeps well in the package it comes in.  I use pre-made crusts, and they fit on the inside of my bear vaults along the side.  I dehydrate red peppers, green peppers, black olives and spagetti sauce for my toppings.  I use the pepperonis and string cheese stripped up as my cheese (cooked on reflection oven)
The first night I ussually have a steak or butterfly chops or something and hashbrowns.  (fresh food first night always)
Oh this is a solo type menu for me.
Hope that gives you some ideas.
PS  I do all my dehydrating on the days my wife is not around, as I drive her nuts when I take over the kitchen to get ready for a trip...so I do it while she is gone for a few days... I also store all my dehydrated stuff in zip locks, some times double them up if going to be in freezer for a while, and freeze them, and mark bags with black magic marker so I know what to do.  I also mark the recipe with a black sharpie on the outside of my ziplocks so I know how much water to add, or whatever.
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Reply #57 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 2:34pm
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We have recently settled into a practice that mostly works well for us when in a group of friends.  Dinners are communal, all other food is your own trouble.

I like the communal dinner as it brings everyone together at some point in the day.  I'm likely to wander off, go fishing, putter about.  It's nice to rally back at the campfire & share a meal.

What did happen this past spring is one guy who likes to shave weight decided to shave on the communal meal.  Less than 2c of food each is just not enough calories or bulk for out there.

I have given up on the mouthful of paste that is oatmeal, though I'll give steel cut a chance at some point.  I wake up pasty enough.  From here on it it's soup with quinoa.  In the cooler months some fatty saussage.
  
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Reply #58 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:01pm
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Preacher wrote on Nov 7th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
We have recently settled into a practice that mostly works well for us when in a group of friends.  Dinners are communal, all other food is your own trouble.

My paddling partner and I have been doing that since '05. In fact, we both carry food packs.  Actually, it is an easier arrangement for us since we both paddle solo canoes and occasionally split off.  We also each plan, carry, and prepare half the evening meals.  That way, each of us split the camp duties nearly evenly.  (This is a very close approximation to the process we have used backpacking for nearly the last 30 years.)

I guess this has the additional advantage of splitting our food loads, making it more difficult for a bear to make off with all of it at one time.  However, to-date, we have never had a bear problem (either canoeing or backpacking).  And now, I only carry bear spray when I'm doing a true solo.

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Reply #59 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 4:59pm
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One amusing anecdote about the individual food responsibility.  Buddy brought a full liter of peanut butter as well a a lot of other extra food for a 1 week trip.  On the 2nd day of the trip I noticed my pack was heavier & chalked it up to being a fat video game player most of the year.  Later I learned he re-jiggered the food packs to be evenly weighted.   Angry
  
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