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Mar 2nd, 2011 at 4:53pm
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I am a Quiteco "newbe" seeking advice on route options and fishing opportunities for a trip this summer - the first week of Aug. I have the option of Cirrus Lake or Sue Falls entry points and have 5 days on the water to travel & fish. With those parameters, which routes / lakes  and fish species would offer the best fishing options and variety? It'll be a couple of Fathers with our 13 year old sons along, so fun C&R of more/smaller fish is more important than seeking trophy fish. ( after all for a 13yo, most fish are trophy fish)

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Reply #1 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 5:43pm
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PSU-

I'm not a Quetico paddler.  I just paddle the BW.  that being said there are some good resources out there and I'm sure you'll get some advice from some Quetico padlers.  That being said there is a book out that might be a good place to start.

The book is Furtmans Boudary Waters fishing guide (not sure the actual name, I'll have to get back to you on that).  the book covers Quetico Lakes as well.  It does a fairly good job at telling oyu what species to suppect in the lakes you plan to travel and will give some basic fishing tips on how to get them.

Have a great trip!
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 5:48pm
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You really can't go wrong with either of those entry points.  Both have a ton of fish, scenery, nice camp sites etc...  The only real difference between the two are portages.  Sue falls requires a little more "work" to get to Cirrus but you're definately rewarded with the effort.  The Beaverhouse - Cirrus entry is a walk in the park.  My opinion and experience is that NE Cirrus - Sue Falls area is a better fishery than Western Cirrus.  I might suggest slumming around Cirrus/Quetico/Kasakokwog.  Big water but plenty of nooks and cranny's to get out of the wind.  You could spend 5 days on Cirrus and still not get a feel for the entire lake.  Same with Quetico and Kasa.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 7:31pm
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Phantom / Paddle Guy - Thanks you your input. Ive picked up Furtman's fishing guide which gives a good overview. Any thoughts on the fishing to be had down the Maria Lake-Oriana route to Quiteco if we try that way?
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 7:59pm
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If you're thinking of Maria-Oriana you definitely want to fish Jesse.  Aside from the fact that it is a beautiful lake, the walleye fishing, particularly at the eastern end is outstanding. If you want more details pm me.  By the way if you haven't already, pick up a copy of Kevin Callan's book Quetico and Beyond.  It will give you a lot of help in creating a route.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 10:13pm
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i second kerrys idea. my group has spent the majority of our 5 years between jesse and oriana. for the maria/oriana route you have two options, going through hamburg or going through jesse.

the jesse route provides you with some nice fishing opportunities. jesse has darker water and tends to be shallow. white or chartreuse are the colors there, and the numbers of walleyes are great. should easily be able to keep the kids busy. a must visit lake if you have young kids along.

my group never has fished maria or hamburg because we prefer just to make it to oriana the first day with plenty of time to set up camp and whatnot.

oriana is probably my favorite lake in the park. beautiful scenery, the water is more on the clear side, deep, and open. also, what we find important, is that oriana has every species you want in the lake. lake trout, walleyes, smallmouth bass, and pike. sometimes its a bit tricky to find big fish because it is a cisco forage based lake. the larger fish tend to hunt the schools of cisco while the smaller fish 15"-20" range stick to shore and bottom structure. the only issue here is that its pretty open, so if you get a windy week you might struggle with the youngins.

issues you may come across on your route... if it has recently rained, the maria-jesse portage becomes a swamp and the little logs float around. last year(on our way out) they were doing some trail management and dug some drainage ditches, so this may have changed.

if the water is low, the maria-hamburg and hamburg-oriana portages are along streams. with low water the streams are not navigable in your canoe, so they turn into long walks along streams through tangled grass. not overly pleasant for youngsters.

make sure you get yourself a quality map of the whole area. i believe the quetico north central map only goes to the western edge of oriana, so you might need the next map over as well if you are going into quetico lake. its a good idea to make some color copies of the areas you plan to go and laminate them so everyone can have a map, just in case.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 11:23pm
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Jaximus - Many thanks for the input. If we enter at Sue Falls ( Lerome Lake) how long will it take to reach the Jesse/Oriana area? Secondly, from the Jesse/Oriana lake area, is the exit easier to Nym or Beaverhouse? roughly how far/long for each option? Our dads are experienced /fit boaters, the boys at 13 are fit, but not so experienced.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 12:00am
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If you only have 5 days total, I'd go in at Beaverhouse at sunrise, have your paperwork so you can skip the Ranger Station and head straight East down Quetico lk. August with any luck you should have a tailwind and be able to make it to at least the end of Quetico lk, maybe Oriana.

Spend a day on Oriana, then jump into Jesse and then exit at Nym if possible. If you have to go back to entry point, I'd go from Beaverhouse straight into Cirrus, base camp somewhere central and day trip.

5 days total isn't much and IF you lose a day to high winds, which isn't that uncommon, you don't want to have a long way to go and a short time to get there Wink
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 1:16am
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Sounds to me like fishing and the wilderness camping experience are your primary goals.

If that's true then I think you are getting too ambitious trying to get to Jesse via Beaverhouse or Sue Falls.

Since this is a first trip, the objective should be to leave 'em wanting more and not push them too hard. 

Most 13-year-olds are not nearly as goal-oriented as adults.  They just want to have fun fishing, swimming, throwing rocks, exploring around camp, chasing crawdads, helping cook, finding wood, making fire, or whatever else catches their attention for the moment.

I took my 12-year-old daughter up last year with a friend and her dad and we nearly pushed them too hard just going from Bottle portage up into McAree and Minn with a Black Robe exit on a 5-day trip.  They had the most fun once we hit our base camp on Minn and they didn't have to paddle too much each day or set-up/break-down camp.

If  I were you I'd enter Beaverhouse and stay on Quetico and/or Cirrus.  There's plenty of good fishing in those lakes and some pretty nice campsites too.  Portaging would be minimal.  You could stay out of the wind as needed if you use care in campsite selection.  You could also introduce them to the history of the park by showing them the pictographs on Quetico Lake.  If they feel adventurous, take a daytrip to whichever of the two lakes you don't stay on.

The next best alternative is a Sue Falls entry.  They'll definitely get a good taste of portaging if that's what you want.  Most of them are easy but the Sue Falls portage will challenge them a bit.  Sue Falls itself is a fun place for a kid to explore and again the fishing around there is very good.  A daytrip to Soho Lake would be possible and you'll find some good bass/walleye fishing on the east end of Soho.

You've got the right idea to try to get them on some fast fishing.  just carry that idea through to the rest of the trip.  Easy and fun is what you want.  You'll know you've accomplished your goal if they are eagerly talking about "next time" on the way home.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 3rd, 2011 at 2:20am
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Couple other thoughts:

1.  Invest in a portable depthfinder...or better yet convert a regular depthfinder into a portable for even more lightweight option.

2.  Make sure everyone has a rod holder so you can troll as you paddle.

A depthfinder will help you stay on the right depths for the fish you want to catch.  How deep?  Experiment until you find the depth where you catch fish and then use the depthfinder to stay on that spot or find similar spots.  You may not actually see any fish on your unit but once you figure out where they are a depthfinder keeps you in the productive zone.  It'll shorten your learning curve on fishing your lake by a considerable amount.  13-year-olds are not known for their patience...as I'm sure you are well aware!

Trolling as you paddle makes a lot of sense.  First and foremost it gives a kid more reason to paddle than just "we need to get to...(wherever)"  If you are trolling and catching the occasional fish, paddling seems like a lot less work to a kid and he'll be more willing to stick with it.  Additionally you'll learn a lot about what's working or not working for lures and depths before you even get to camp.  Keep your depthfinder on as you go, of course.  Finally, trolling offers your kids increased odds of catching a real lunker that could gut-hook them on canoe tripping for life.
  
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