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Southeast of Sturgeon
Mar 27th, 2011 at 3:34pm
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Hi:

My wife and I are already looking forward to our annual September trip to Quetico.

This year we are contemplating entering at Nym Lake and heading to the area southeast of Sturgeon Lake, namely Fred, Nan, Camel, Eag, Cub, Baird, McDougall.

Does anyone have any recent experience with this area? Any particular reports I could refer to or any info on the creeks and portages connecting those lakes?

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Reply #1 - Mar 27th, 2011 at 4:32pm
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Phoenix,

Check back with me in mid-July.  I'll have some REAL-recent reports on that area & those specific lakes at that point.

Meanwhile, there was a magazine story called "Rendezvous in the Bush" published in the 2006 spring issue of the Boundary Waters Journal that covers those specific lakes.  I'm not sure it would give you the portage condition type information you would be looking for, however.  On the other hand, it'll tell you all about a rather rare species of bird known to inhabit those parts.

More productively, however, you should try using our "Search" function & plug in the names of some of those lakes.  That should lead you to a few pertinent trip reports.  Also, the PCD should point out some of the more likely spots to find campsites, but there are no guarantees of accuracy.

The Cutty Creek chain of lakes offers solitude, few campsites, and pretty decent fishing.  As portage conditions often vary with usage, I expect you will find these to be fairly typical of paths-less-trodden.

Good luck!

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Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2011 at 6:13pm
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Phoenix,

I traveled from Keats through Baird and then Cutty Creek to Camel and on into Veron/Delahey last October. Creeks held plenty of water to paddle (and water levels were relatively low). Portages were in decent shape for not showing loads of use. The creek between Baird and Cub is stunning. I located a number of good-looking relatively obvious camps. The portage between Keats and Baird is strenuous. I'm working on a trip report. Feel free to ask any specific questions.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 1:55am
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Solus wrote on Mar 27th, 2011 at 6:13pm:
The creek between Baird and Cub is stunning. ... The portage between Keats and Baird is strenuous.

I did this portage (and route) the other direction in '08.  I'd agree that the Keats to Baird portage is an attention getter.  From the Keats side it ascends up a small creek channel.  Once the trail turns left out of the creek it gets MUCH steeper.  Once the climb has been completed, its is a distance of ground with some minor ups and downs.  Once you begin your descent to Baird, the trail plunges rather significantly over some rock face terrain (which I got to do when it was wet).  The final few yards were (when I did it) a mucky mess.  Loads of fun.  A wrinkle was added to my fun by a large deadfall from steep descent (rock face) to a less severe descent ... too large to step over without unloading (of course I was doing it the other direction).

When you exit Baird as it enters  Cutty Creek, one of you should go ahead and stand at the bottom of the portage and let the other pitch stuff down to him/her.  You'll know what I mean when you see it.  That part of the creek is relatively narrow, which was a minor problem when I made the traverse.  I ran into a small deadfall just on the surface of the water and spanning the channel.  Paddling solo, I could not reach it to move it out of the way since the channel was too narrow to get sideways to the obstruction.  I eventually stepped out into the hummock grass along the channel to remove my impediment.

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Reply #4 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 6:08am
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Jimbo wrote on Mar 27th, 2011 at 4:32pm:
Meanwhile, there was a magazine story called "Rendezvous in the Bush" published in the 2006 spring issue of the Boundary Waters Journal that covers those specific lakes.


Jimbo,
Let me think......Who wrote that article????? Wink
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 12:34pm
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Thanks to everyone for all the "highlights" on this intended route.  Jimbo, I subscribe to the Boundary Waters Journal so I will try to find the 2006 article.

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Reply #6 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 12:40pm
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Jimbo:

Wouldn't you know it!!  We've subscribed to Boundary Water Journal since 1998 except for a one year period when we inadvertently let our subscription lapse. And Spring 2006 falls into that lapse period!
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 12:57pm
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so you are going to Baird, then going to backtrack to Eag to McDougall ?

or are you thinking Baird to Keats to McDougall ? 

if that's your plan, be aware that the portage from Keats to McDougall is likely the steepest climb in the park, just at the start - its steep enough, that many people use a rope to simply haul thier boat up, or lower it down the cliff.  I went the other direction, (and I carry my boat on a backpack frame, so it can't slide off my shoulders) and going down that cliff, keeping the boat parrelell to the ground surface, the bow was well below my feet by a couple of yards.  it is more a cliff, than a hill

travel in the Cutty Creek area tends to be slower - so allow more time than you might in other areas

definitely look thru the trip reports

there used to be a false portage at one of the landings, heading uphill away from the creek as I recall - at one time, it had some logs thrown across it to steer you away from it - the portages follow the creek

the portage database could be helpful too
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 1:58pm
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If you are coming into Keats via Russell-Chatterton, it makes sense to take the short portage from Chatterton into/out of McDougall and avoid the "cliff" portage to Keats altogether.  When back on Chatterton, the Split Rock Falls portage is not too bad ... although there is a bit of a climb out of Chatterton until you reach the height of the falls, then its more or less level until you reach Keats.  You might have to do some boulder hopping on the Keats end to move you far enough away from the falls, especially if the outflow down the falls is running high. 

BTW:  the McDougall to Eag portage is no picnic either.  There is s descent sized bog on the McDougall side.

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Reply #9 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 3:20pm
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Android wrote on Mar 28th, 2011 at 6:08am:
Jimbo wrote on Mar 27th, 2011 at 4:32pm:
Meanwhile, there was a magazine story called "Rendezvous in the Bush" published in the 2006 spring issue of the Boundary Waters Journal that covers those specific lakes.


Jimbo,
Let me think......Who wrote that article????? Wink



Somebody who didn't offer much decent information on the condition of the portages, as I recall.  He also wrote about two bushwhack opportunities (one into Stumpy's 1st Bushwhackers Jamboree & another into Hoare Lake from Camel Lake), neither of which he even bothered to attempt.

He described it being really pretty back in there, though, and, as I understand it, will be doing one of those two bushwhacks this summer.  Or, maybe he'll simply sit back with his Scotch, watch the whole thing, and write about the OTHERS who attempt the bushwhack.

That solution actually sounds more enjoyable to me....

Later,

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